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Merlí
Oct 12, 2016 22:43:08 GMT -5
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Post by yahoorain on Oct 12, 2016 22:43:08 GMT -5
Poll by merlitv3 twitter account and the final results.
Wonder if this is foreshadowing??? It's basically asking who thinks bruno and pol will have a relationship (i think).....
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Merlí
Oct 13, 2016 0:27:57 GMT -5
Post by Hawthorne on Oct 13, 2016 0:27:57 GMT -5
Oliver has a lot to deal with in his family. I hope things improve for him. He's a very sweet guy and his friendship with Ivan is so improbable that it works perfectly. I find these gay-straight friendships adorable and really heartening. And it's not just on TV shows. I see it more and more in real life. Maybe one leads to the other.
I wonder if the show wants us to do a compare/contrast between Bruno/Pol and Oliver/Ivan. Two instances when the gay friend made a move on the straight friend, yet one led to sex and the other did not. Both Pol and Ivan are straight (I think fully straight) and yet Pol quite enjoys sex with his gay best friend. I'd hate to think it's because Bruno is super hot, but let's be honest, that's probably a big part of why Pol does it. It's true Pol and Bruno had had sex before so the ice had already been broken. And I guess Pol and Bruno's friendship runs deeper than Oliver and Ivan's since they only recently met each other. Still, there's something different about Pol that enables him to simultaneously be straight and yet passionately make love (not just sex) to Bruno. I don't think he's bi and I don't think it's as simple as him being a Brunosexual. I think it's connected to his special talent for philosophy. He has extra layers of depth and passion, IMO. More than any of the other characters.
BTW, the Merli poll shows 62% think Pol and Bruno will have a relationship.
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Merlí
Oct 13, 2016 18:51:48 GMT -5
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Post by yahoorain on Oct 13, 2016 18:51:48 GMT -5
Did Berta pick up on something when Bruno walked past Pol? i am also confused w a translation. The translation given in the video was 'bruno is amazing', i believe the phrase was 'bruno es la hosta' according to closed captions. Can someone clear that up? Thank you
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Merlí
Oct 13, 2016 22:09:32 GMT -5
Post by sunshine0786 on Oct 13, 2016 22:09:32 GMT -5
Did Berta pick up on something when Bruno walked past Pol? i am also confused w a translation. The translation given in the video was 'bruno is amazing', i believe the phrase was 'bruno es la hosta' according to closed captions. Can someone clear that up? Thank you Berta was kind of insulting Bruno and how he likes the teacher no one else does. Poi was the one who said "Bruno is amazing", in his defense I guess. That could be telling us a bit about his feelings for Bruno. I didn't notice that the first time watching it. It literally means Bruno is the host/wafer, which refers to religious communion. I'm guessing it's a idiom of some sort. But this is just me using various translators and other research and not someone who speaks Catalan, so someone else may be able to give you a better answer.
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Merlí
Oct 14, 2016 0:20:08 GMT -5
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Post by yahoorain on Oct 14, 2016 0:20:08 GMT -5
Did Berta pick up on something when Bruno walked past Pol? i am also confused w a translation. The translation given in the video was 'bruno is amazing', i believe the phrase was 'bruno es la hosta' according to closed captions. Can someone clear that up? Thank you Berta was kind of insulting Bruno and how he likes the teacher no one else does. Poi was the one who said "Bruno is amazing", in his defense I guess. That could be telling us a bit about his feelings for Bruno. I didn't notice that the first time watching it. It literally means Bruno is the host/wafer, which refers to religious communion. I'm guessing it's a idiom of some sort. But this is just me using various translators and other research and not someone who speaks Catalan, so someone else may be able to give you a better answer. I got the same translations too
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Merlí
Oct 14, 2016 13:37:43 GMT -5
Post by jjose712 on Oct 14, 2016 13:37:43 GMT -5
No, Berta was not insulting him but she was not saying he is amazing either.
Hostia is a religious terms is the body of christ, what catholics take at communion, as a slur it means a big slap or punch. The term Berta use is ser la hostia, she is using a vulgar or popular expression that can have several meanings (being amazing is one of them), but in this case she is expressing her amusement for Bruno liking Coralina (who really treats her bad), she is not insulting him but she is showing her incredulity for the fact he seems to like a teacher all the rest can't stand
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dmagiclight
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Merlí
Oct 15, 2016 17:44:53 GMT -5
Post by dmagiclight on Oct 15, 2016 17:44:53 GMT -5
I wonder If Bruno actually has A boyfriend or is he making him up
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Post by jijiang1987 on Oct 16, 2016 1:36:05 GMT -5
I wonder If Bruno actually has A boyfriend or is he making him up he is making up i guess :cool:
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Merlí
Oct 16, 2016 20:21:48 GMT -5
Post by mizuryuu on Oct 16, 2016 20:21:48 GMT -5
I think he does have one. If only because it adds to the drama since Bruno is basically cheating on his boyfriend with Pol...
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Merlí
Oct 17, 2016 13:15:02 GMT -5
Post by luckycharm on Oct 17, 2016 13:15:02 GMT -5
I am now in love with this storyline, and TV show! What a wonderful, heart-warming and intelligent little show. First loves, confusion around trying to figure out one's place in the world, teenage angst, hormones, and all those issues. Dealt with such honesty and heart. I was watching RKFanvidder's wonderful videos of the SL, and in this one, their first hookup: www.dailymotion.com/video/x4hrz48_bruno-pol-1x09-english-subtitles_tv11:57 - starts with Pol looking at his own reflection and out into the world/city outside, wondering about his life and whether he'll truly find happiness. He says out loud, "Wonder what my mother would have gifted me for my 18th birthday...." 11:58 - you see a shot of Bruno, lying down, looking beautiful as ever, waiting for Pol to take/accept...and you can't help but wonder, if the unsaid reply is, "she would gift you with love." And now, season 2, Bruno has become even more beautiful (irresistible to Pol) - he reminds me of a graceful swan or colt - finally awaking to his desirability/sexuality - and running with it, without being aware that he's playing with very adult emotions, with fire. And poor Pol, he is going to get so very burnt. He gave that warning to Bruno, "I don't want to play with you." But I fear that this time around, it is he who should have heeded that warning. But, Bruno was way too tempting to resist, I guess. So looking forward to the sl unfolding. Such a wonderfully brilliant and nuanced series. I'm in love with Bruno and Pol and their creators.
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Haru
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Merlí
Oct 17, 2016 17:37:08 GMT -5
Post by Haru on Oct 17, 2016 17:37:08 GMT -5
I love this show but Bruno story is so slow this season eh..... one plus next week Pol more family drama
Ivan mother is SO creepy.....
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Merlí
Oct 18, 2016 0:56:44 GMT -5
Post by Hawthorne on Oct 18, 2016 0:56:44 GMT -5
The untranslated episode: [deleted - sorry, looked like a full ep -Z]
Although it deals only briefly with the aftermath and Bruno and Pol's encounter, I am encouraged by how they are with each other. Pol sure has come a long way from where he was at the start of last season.
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Post by kevvoi on Oct 18, 2016 17:02:27 GMT -5
here is RKFanvidder's translated clip:
Please remember that posting full episode links is prohibited.
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Merlí
Oct 18, 2016 20:13:00 GMT -5
Post by Hawthorne on Oct 18, 2016 20:13:00 GMT -5
here is RKFanvidder's translated clip: Please remember that posting full episode links is prohibited. I forgot about that. My apologies.
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Merlí
Oct 18, 2016 22:00:02 GMT -5
Post by Zathras on Oct 18, 2016 22:00:02 GMT -5
No problem. So I'm not quite sure what the deal is between Pol and Bruno now. I'm glad that Pol isn't running away from the fact he had sex with Bruno. They're really comfortable with each other, which is great to see. But Pol is also really drawn to that older woman (I forget her name), and the show is hinting that something might happen. And Bruno doesn't seem bothered by the fact that Pol identifies as straight and is eyeing that woman. It's an interesting dynamic; I'm curious where it's going (if anywhere).
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Merlí
Oct 19, 2016 2:17:39 GMT -5
Post by Hawthorne on Oct 19, 2016 2:17:39 GMT -5
Anatomy of a SceneEven though it was a brief scene, the s2e05 Bruno-Pol scene answered a lot of my questions about their latest encounter. Pol obviously didn't have a bad reaction to the fact that Bruno seduced him, which gives me some hope. But hope for what? Do I really want them to become a couple? It probably wouldn't work out. Or would lifelong friends with occasional benefits be better (and more realistic)? Their body language is telling. These two are very comfortable with each other, which usually happens when two people have licked every square inch of each others' body. They also really enjoy each other. Could it be that they are already a couple and neither has realized it yet? Perhaps the story will be that they slowly come to recognize each other as their soulmate. Or perhaps not. Check out (above) who just happens to be behind Pol and Bruno in the scene. It's none other than the other gay-straight friendship on the show, Oliver and Ivan - the ones who aren't sleeping with each other. Could have been anyone behind them, but it was them. I keep getting the feeling that the writers are contrasting the two friendships. Perhaps that is going somewhere. Looks like Oliver might be starting to pick up on something. If any of the guy characters on the show are going to figure out that something is going on between Pol and Bruno, it will probably be Oliver. None the straight guys would believe a guy like Pol could be interested in sex with another man, but Oliver probably knows better about what straight guys are capable of. Although Pol is much more relaxed about what happened with Bruno, he does have his limits and doesn't like it to be discussed openly. What I found interesting about the part of the scene where Bruno is playfully teasing Pol about their encounter is how confident Bruno is that he won't cause any problems between him and Pol by teasing him about their sex. He's like a fisherman who knows the fish is on his hook and can't get off. Will Bruno try to reel Pol in as time goes by? The trajectory of Pol so far has been that he becomes ever more comfortable with intimacy with Bruno, but I suspect there's a limit to how close he can accept. Bruno as a sexual side dish for Pol is one thing, but Bruno as the main course? If that's where the show is going, I'm real curious to see how they pull it off in a believable way. I think I would be content with the friends with benefits scenario between Pol and Bruno. I mean, if they love each other and occasionally have sex as they go through life, that would be a pretty good outcome to their story, IMO. Of course, it may be that Bruno and Pol's recent encounter was just a bone the show threw to all the fans who ship them and going forward they will just be close friends. I hope not, but that's possible. My guess is that because their relationship is so interesting, the writers will continue to explore it. Pol is a really interesting, cutting edge character in mainstream media. An alpha male heterosexual who is comfortable pushing his tongue (and who knows what else) down his best friend's mouth. Such a character didn't (and couldn't) exist until very recently outside of novels and queer cinema. Him and characters like him are essentially redefining manhood for their generation.
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Merlí
Oct 19, 2016 22:57:07 GMT -5
Post by luckycharm on Oct 19, 2016 22:57:07 GMT -5
Anatomy of a SceneCheck out (above) who just happens to be behind Pol and Bruno in the scene. It's none other than the other gay-straight friendship on the show, Oliver and Ivan - the ones who aren't sleeping with each other. Could have been anyone behind them, but it was them. I keep getting the feeling that the writers are contrasting the two friendships. That's a great observation! I agree that the writers are purposely calling on this compare and contrast, to show the differences, and why the differences arose/exist, and what that might mean for how each pair's relationship ultimately plays out. I hope the show is trying to show Bruno/Pol as Plato's Ideal love (Merli also hinted as much to Bruno, when he gave Bruno the Symposium to read to find out about love). Philia (friendship and fondness) born out of eros (lust/sexual attraction/passionate yearning, what have you....), which, in turn, subsists eros and ultimately, elevates eros from its baser form. Both the pairs have friendship, but only one has eros, that of Bruno and Pol. Their mutual sexual attraction is palpable from the screen. ** It was a short scene with Bruno/Pol, but I really enjoyed how simply they played the repercussions of the hook-up (as a non-issue, almost). And what that revealed. From my take-away: 1) It's so not going to be a non-issue for long (these teenagers are playing adult games, without the maturity to deal with the adult emotions that comes with it). Namely, Bruno is playing with fire, and he thinks he has total control over it (he does not). The seeming flippant confidence (which, I actually love watching! heh) and pushing the limits. 2) Pol is going to get burnt. Bad. I thought he would get irritated or angry at Bruno for poking fun at Pol's macho street-cred and mentioning their hook-up. But, Pol was affectionately chastising. No real heat in his irritation or annoyance, he only seemed a bit worried about being overheard. Then, when Bruno asks Pol if he liked their hook-up, there's a stiff-bodied, tight nod of acknowledgement...that's filled with nervousness. Like it is thrilling and scary as shit, at the same time; acknowledging that. And...maybe...Pol felt, in that moment, that he had to acknowledge lest he piss off/distance Bruno and Bruno takes away the deal on the table. I don't think Pol has yet reflected on why it feels scary as shit to acknowledge if it is 'just a hookup'. And, as we see, Pol's nerves are not about his masculinity being 'questioned' or any of those insecurities that 'no homo' straight guys feel after hooking up with a dude (Bruno's initial poke at his 'macho'ness didn't really phase him). The fear is rooted in something deeper. Perhaps, real feelings? The only time Pol truly gets irritated and annoyed at Bruno is when he comments on Ivan's mother. Thus, breaking the spell...aka....end to the flirting. 3) Bruno's bumping and brushing up against Pol...man, oh man. Bruno, Bruno, Bruno! I love how rascally he can be. However, never once did I see Pol react nervously, or try to distance his body from Bruno's. He leaned into Bruno during their interactions. In conclusion, Bruno, you tease. Pol...you are so not ready for this game.
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Merlí
Oct 20, 2016 20:35:21 GMT -5
Post by Zathras on Oct 20, 2016 20:35:21 GMT -5
I like the way you guys think.
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Merlí
Oct 22, 2016 6:49:12 GMT -5
Post by kevvoi on Oct 22, 2016 6:49:12 GMT -5
Promo for the next episode courtesy of Gay Storylines:
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Merlí
Oct 24, 2016 11:28:57 GMT -5
Post by vesper on Oct 24, 2016 11:28:57 GMT -5
So no Bruno then?
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Merlí
Oct 25, 2016 18:03:04 GMT -5
Post by kevvoi on Oct 25, 2016 18:03:04 GMT -5
Next part courtesy of RKFanvidder:
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Merlí
Oct 25, 2016 19:38:20 GMT -5
Post by Zathras on Oct 25, 2016 19:38:20 GMT -5
Well, that took long enough. I had forgotten how crappy Pol's home life is. After the argument with his father I was thinking Pol needed a friend, and I hoped (but didn't expect) he would go see Bruno. Oh well. I wonder if he still has a job. And what Bruno will say when he learns about this.
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Merlí
Oct 25, 2016 22:47:08 GMT -5
Post by luckycharm on Oct 25, 2016 22:47:08 GMT -5
Well, it was bound to happen. Rather it sooner than later. Out of all the scenarios, the way it happened was just all kinds of wrong. Legally, Pol is 18. But he's still very much a kid....and especially in that scene, with him in tears and afraid and ashamed. There was a clear power imbalance there, in that situation, and Miriam exploited it. Did Pol want it to happen? Of course, he did. But, I'm guessing this was not how he imagined it would go down. "Paying back" with sex. Just uncomfortable all around.
Pol's home life is so sad. His loss and longing for a mother is palpable. Along comes Miriam. Mommy issues twisted?
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Merlí
Oct 25, 2016 23:14:32 GMT -5
Post by Hawthorne on Oct 25, 2016 23:14:32 GMT -5
I have a feeling Pol is going to keep his job. Maybe he even earns a promotion. I guess for a lot of us this is a disappointing development, even though it's been clear it was going to happen for a while now. Pol, after all, is genuinely straight. It's also clear now that Bruno and Pol's sex is not going to lead to them becoming a couple any time soon - at least not in the normal sense. And it may not be the focus of a story this season. It's possible the purpose of the sex was to get beyond it in their friendship. They are very close now, which is nice to see. Looks like Pol has an emotional connection with Ivan's mother in addition to a sexual one. However, there's a good chance this will end badly for both of them and then maybe Bruno will be there to help Pol pick up the pieces. I think there's an outside chance Pol and Bruno - over time - could enter into a romantic relationship, but that would require Pol having an epiphany about Bruno and his feelings for him. Perhaps repeated failures with women leads him to look more closely at what he has with Bruno. More realistic, I think, is what I call the "European friend" scenario. I guess we'll find out. Bruno may be jealous when he finds out, but more than that I think he'll be concerned that Pol is going to get burned. He has his own boyfriend, after all, and maybe we are getting close to the time when Niccola makes an appearance.
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Merlí
Oct 26, 2016 19:49:16 GMT -5
Post by Zathras on Oct 26, 2016 19:49:16 GMT -5
Yeah, it's possible Pol is going to get hurt by whatever happens with Miriam, at least in the long run. It does seem like his longing for a mother figure is getting all twisted up with his hormones. I'm not sure she can give him what he needs emotionally. Definitely not if they have a sexual relationship.
It's a bit hard for me to tell where they're going with the Pol & Bruno relationship. I'm still not entirely sure why Bruno seduced Pol in that particular moment. Was he just lonely? Bruno seemed to play it off later, teasing Pol a bit. I'm actually not sure whether Bruno will be jealous about Miriam, at least not at first. Maybe it depends how much he feels for Pol and whether he denies it. Hmm.
Nevertheless, it's still nice to see that they're still close friends.
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