gidi
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A gay man born 14 nov 1951 from Haifa Israel
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Post by gidi on Aug 2, 2013 5:50:50 GMT -5
thanks mimi. I am surprise deniz not pay attention to how joscha look on him
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Post by marlislash on Aug 2, 2013 13:22:35 GMT -5
OMG Can has a bit of crush on Katja no ?
I like how Joscha can take a admirative look at Deniz and this one doesn't have a clue.
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Post by cathy29 on Aug 2, 2013 13:48:38 GMT -5
Joscha lol running away everytime Melanie wants to have sex.She really needs to get laid by the team she is one horny girl.Joscha other then eating a apple he should be eating a banana.The way his looking at Deniz ass and biting the apple so naughty.I liked that Deniz sat really close to Joscha on the couch.Joscha wasn't really paying to the dvd on his focus was Deniz face.Joscha has it bad for Deniz I really hope they get together.
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Post by mimi1985d on Aug 2, 2013 14:12:54 GMT -5
OMG Can has a bit of crush on Katja no ? I like how Joscha can take a admirative look at Deniz and this one doesn't have a clue. I think he just doesn't get it because Joscha makes so often anti-gay comments and he thinks Joscha is super straight... or maybe it's because he hadn't any gay interaction since Romam and he (Deniz) seems way more mature in the last months. He's strictly business about the whole soccer thing.
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Post by jmi2000 on Aug 2, 2013 14:20:18 GMT -5
i cannot wait to see how Can is going to fall so hard with Katja. he protests so much! think she'll smack him upside the head?
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Post by lfrmedbrasil on Aug 2, 2013 17:18:16 GMT -5
Joscha lol running away everytime Melanie wants to have sex.She really needs to get laid by the team she is one horny girl.Joscha other then eating a apple he should be eating a banana.The way his looking at Deniz ass and biting the apple so naughty.I liked that Deniz sat really close to Joscha on the couch.Joscha wasn't really paying to the dvd on his focus was Deniz face.Joscha has it bad for Deniz I really hope they get together. Hi, I agree! Hahaha, Melanie was the wet one but Joscha was sure a slippery fellow! Joscha had a hard time trying to swallow, with those intense looks at Deniz. I counted 7. Oh and Melanie thanks for bringing the cream... I'm sure Joscha will think of all the ways he would use it on Deniz! Deniz's facial expression is priceless at the end. I can be such a bad girl! =)
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Post by mimi1985d on Aug 2, 2013 18:34:01 GMT -5
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Post by Zathras on Aug 2, 2013 19:53:05 GMT -5
Danke, Mimi! I loved the double entendre at the end of 1737. Joscha is so attracted to Deniz it isn't funny, so I hope he stops being a jerk and stringing Melanie along. But I do wish that fantasy had lasted just a bit longer.
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Post by cathy29 on Aug 2, 2013 20:05:21 GMT -5
OMG Joscha daydream with Deniz was damn intense so hot.I was like oh god he just touched Deniz face like Roman used to do it drooling.Deniz puppy eyes getting big.The kiss almost but damn it hell the show killed it.Why couldn't it be longer letting them kiss so we can see if they do have chemistry
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Post by thecollective on Aug 2, 2013 20:21:41 GMT -5
thank you so much for posting i love Joscha storyline
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Post by chandon on Aug 2, 2013 21:00:32 GMT -5
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Post by marlislash on Aug 3, 2013 1:11:16 GMT -5
OMG Can has a bit of crush on Katja no ? I like how Joscha can take a admirative look at Deniz and this one doesn't have a clue. I think he just doesn't get it because Joscha makes so often anti-gay comments and he thinks Joscha is super straight... or maybe it's because he hadn't any gay interaction since Romam and he (Deniz) seems way more mature in the last months. He's strictly business about the whole soccer thing. Agreed, perhaps Deniz even thinks in his mind that he will not have something like he has with Roman and doesn't search or try anymore.
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Post by marlislash on Aug 3, 2013 1:11:36 GMT -5
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Post by morgain on Aug 3, 2013 3:32:43 GMT -5
I agree with mimi about Deniz not noticing the crush but I personally think there could be more.... Think of Roman in comparison.. here was a man who was completely comfortable with being gay and wasn't ashamed by loving Deniz even out in public -- I think we all remember PDA from this couple! Joscha(however much he is growing on me.. Seriously is he getting hotter!?!?!?) is the exact opposite of Roman and, frankly, until he is ready to live his life openly loving Deniz then I don't think Deniz is going to get involved... Hopefully this will all sort out itself and we can have them as a lovely pairing later on!!! BTW is anyone else really happy in seeing Tom Chroust back writing our fav S/L's??? I trust that it will be a great S/L with him involved!!
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gidi
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Post by gidi on Aug 3, 2013 4:27:48 GMT -5
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gidi
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Post by gidi on Aug 3, 2013 4:30:48 GMT -5
now it clear joscha know he want deniz the day dream was so intense but he desn't dare yet.and deniz doesn't know... till 2 weeks in sept we still don't know
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gidi
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Post by gidi on Aug 4, 2013 4:30:21 GMT -5
I agree with mimi about Deniz not noticing the crush but I personally think there could be more.... Think of Roman in comparison.. here was a man who was completely comfortable with being gay and wasn't ashamed by loving Deniz even out in public -- I think we all remember PDA from this couple! Joscha(however much he is growing on me.. Seriously is he getting hotter!?!?!?) is the exact opposite of Roman and, frankly, until he is ready to live his life openly loving Deniz then I don't think Deniz is going to get involved... Hopefully this will all sort out itself and we can have them as a lovely pairing later on!!! BTW is anyone else really happy in seeing Tom Chroust back writing our fav S/L's??? I trust that it will be a great S/L with him involved!! i think like u deniz will not want lover in the closet and may wait to joscha. The question is when joscha have the guts to come out?
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Post by LadyArmand on Aug 4, 2013 7:46:12 GMT -5
This is only specultion on my part, but I think the reason the story is going this way is because Deniz has to come to terms with losing Roman and then falling in love with another man. From what we know after Roman's death Deniz has been attracted to women. I know some people find this to be annoying because they haven't shown him with a man since Roman. But I think the reason might be because for Deniz being with another man means he has replaced Roman and that is something he doesn't want to do. Being with a woman is no threat to the memory of Roman. He told Joscha that the great of of his life was a man and if he hadn't died he was sure they would still be together. To me that is very telling on Deniz's part, because it means for Deniz Roman is still the ideal. That relaionship is the one he wants, that closeness, that intensity, that love and passion. Being with women isn't a threat to that because while he loved Sara it was nowhere near what he had with Roman, and him not noticing that Joscha is attracted to him plays into that. He's not thinking about other men because for him that would mean everything he had with Roman is really over and I think part of Deniz is keepng that relationship alive. I think for Deniz being with another man would mean he has completely moved on from Roman and I don't think he is ready to do that. I think this story may have more layers to it than Joscha coming out and accetping who he is as a gay man and athelete. I think this story maybe jsut as much about Deniz really letting go of Roman and moving on in a way that means he can love another man and not have that mean he is replacing or forgetting Roman. I think for Deniz this may be about accepting that we are afforded more than one great love and that Roman would want that for him. I think this is abot a journey of discovery for both Deniz and Joscha.
I know, I know...hope dies last. But as has been mentioned Tom Chroust is back. And as we all know he's gays always have issues. Ten days of bitching for every two days of paradise as it were.
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Post by jos87 on Aug 4, 2013 9:15:22 GMT -5
This is only specultion on my part, but I think the reason the story is going this way is because Deniz has to come to terms with losing Roman and then falling in love with another man. From what we know after Roman's death Deniz has been attracted to women. I know some people find this to be annoying because they haven't shown him with a man since Roman. But I think the reason might be because for Deniz being with another man means he has replaced Roman and that is something he doesn't want to do. Being with a woman is no threat to the memory of Roman. He told Joscha that the great of of his life was a man and if he hadn't died he was sure they would still be together. To me that is very telling on Deniz's part, because it means for Deniz Roman is still the ideal. That relaionship is the one he wants, that closeness, that intensity, that love and passion. Being with women isn't a threat to that because while he loved Sara it was nowhere near what he had with Roman, and him not noticing that Joscha is attracted to him plays into that. He's not thinking about other men because for him that would mean everything he had with Roman is really over and I think part of Deniz is keepng that relationship alive. I think for Deniz being with another man would mean he has completely moved on from Roman and I don't think he is ready to do that. I think this story may have more layers to it than Joscha coming out and accetping who he is as a gay man and athelete. I think this story maybe jsut as much about Deniz really letting go of Roman and moving on in a way that means he can love another man and not have that mean he is replacing or forgetting Roman. I think for Deniz this may be about accepting that we are afforded more than one great love and that Roman would want that for him. I think this is abot a journey of discovery for both Deniz and Joscha. I know, I know...hope dies last. But as has been mentioned Tom Chroust is back. And as we all know he's gays always have issues. Ten days of bitching for every two days of paradise as it were. I really like your point of view about this story (especially when you talk about Deniz in relation with Roman) and I really hope this is what the writers will do with Joscha and Deniz in this storyline. A storyline that at the moment is evolving slowly and that I think will take us occupied for many months the writers have a great potential with Deniz and Joscha considering their stories (and considering the past in we talk about Deniz)
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Post by megi307 on Aug 4, 2013 11:47:25 GMT -5
LadyArmand, jos87 I agree with you on that! I know I've said it before... but I'm really sure Tom Chroust knows what he does Everything that is happening in this sl ( and how fast does it) has its own time and purpose! Some scenes may be off right now but it's there for a reason! and I believe it will only get better
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Post by cathy29 on Aug 4, 2013 18:02:35 GMT -5
LadyArmand, I have to 100 percent agree with your post that's how I feel too.I mean Joscha has to deal with being openly gay and being accepted with his team members and of course his best friend Can.And also deal with the death of his bf he seemed to care and love so much.Deniz also has talk about how he would feel about moving on and dating other guy sense Roman.I think he hasn't dated other guy because his deep love for Roman he doesn't want to forget about him.And he feels if he does his betraying Roman and what they stood for.Both guys can help each other with their problems physically and emotionally.I don't think right away they are going to be a couple drama has to happen and in their way is Melanie.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Aug 4, 2013 18:48:36 GMT -5
LadyArmand, I have to 100 percent agree with your post that's how I feel too.I mean Joscha has to deal with being openly gay and being accepted with his team members and of course his best friend Can.And also deal with the death of his bf he seemed to care and love so much.Deniz also has talk about how he would feel about moving on and dating other guy sense Roman.I think he hasn't dated other guy because his deep love for Roman he doesn't want to forget about him.And he feels if he does his betraying Roman and what they stood for.Both guys can help each other with their problems physically and emotionally.I don't think right away they are going to be a couple drama has to happen and in their way is Melanie. Melanie's not in the way of Joscha and Deniz displaying boy kisses at all. Deniz isn't ready to allow another man, into his heart, soul and mind. Regardless of Melanie being in the situation, Joscha, at this point in his life, isn't that guy for Denis. Deniz, shouldn't have to be the guide to Joscha fully embracing his gayness.
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Post by cathy29 on Aug 4, 2013 21:33:19 GMT -5
LadyArmand, I have to 100 percent agree with your post that's how I feel too.I mean Joscha has to deal with being openly gay and being accepted with his team members and of course his best friend Can.And also deal with the death of his bf he seemed to care and love so much.Deniz also has talk about how he would feel about moving on and dating other guy sense Roman.I think he hasn't dated other guy because his deep love for Roman he doesn't want to forget about him.And he feels if he does his betraying Roman and what they stood for.Both guys can help each other with their problems physically and emotionally.I don't think right away they are going to be a couple drama has to happen and in their way is Melanie. Melanie's not in the way of Joscha and Deniz displaying boy kisses at all. Deniz isn't ready to allow another man, into his heart, soul and mind. Regardless of Melanie being in the situation, Joscha, at this point in his life, isn't that guy for Denis. Deniz, shouldn't have to be the guide to Joscha fully embracing his gayness. What I mean about Melanie is that she is going be in the middle of it if they go the way the boys getting together.Joscha is lying to her about being gay using her as a cover.Deniz is going to starting like her.Deniz might end up dating her and later on start liking Joscha but this my option okay everyone has their own thinking what is going to happen.Deniz is grown man what Joscha is going through is what Deniz went through too when he was young so I think he would help Joscha accept himself and tell him its okay to be out of closet gay man playing soccer
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Post by Zathras on Aug 4, 2013 22:04:31 GMT -5
Deniz, shouldn't have to be the guide to Joscha fully embracing his gayness. Do you see no dramatic value in the role reversal? Roman helped Deniz when he was first coming out. Now Deniz can help Joscha, if that's where the story goes. That's an interesting angle for me that helps offset the fact that this is yet another coming out story.
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Post by ardellro on Aug 4, 2013 22:49:15 GMT -5
See the big difference between Joscha and Deniz is that while Deniz was a young teenage boy discovering his sexuality, Joscha knows what his sexuality is, but is hiding it for career purposes. Deniz wouldn't be guiding Joscha sexually, but rather be the impetus to come out of the closet. He's going to have to show he's willing to give it all up and be honest with the world if he wants Deniz.
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