Gabi
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Post by Gabi on May 13, 2008 15:50:25 GMT -5
Norman Kalle aka Dr. Oliver Sommer, from his homepage. Not exactly what we are used to see
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Post by amber80 on May 14, 2008 8:24:17 GMT -5
Not bad at all... ;D
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Post by Bonobochick on May 14, 2008 8:30:10 GMT -5
Norman Kalle aka Dr. Oliver Sommer, from his homepage. Not exactly what we are used to see After Igor, he's #2 on my list of most attractive man on the show, though his lips are a thinner than I like on a man.
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Post by lolaruns on May 14, 2008 10:50:12 GMT -5
Awwwww, Ingo remembered his one true bromance in the most recent episode! why oh why or why does Ingo have to be so straight? Sigh. Him and Roman arguing about shoes and Roman being offended that Ingo wanted somebody else to be his Best Man was really cute again.
That said, I really hate the thought of Ingo's ex coming back. Ingo and Anette just aren't the kind of couple that should be messed with with a third party. I rather like the thought of them having issues of Ingo's kid (that feels very realistic for them). I just hope they stay away from a romantic (even one sided) third party thing.
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Post by amber80 on May 14, 2008 16:47:42 GMT -5
Oi, now I have to go and watch AWZ; Ringo is always a pleasure to watch!
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Post by Bonobochick on May 17, 2008 12:06:49 GMT -5
I can't wait for GayTime's clip & comments on 16 Mai ep. *ahem*I like Max more and more if for no other reason that he is a constant thorn in Deniz & Vanessa's relationship. Anyone else see it the 16 Mai ep? I couldn't make out all the dialogue but enough to smile at Max when he was relaying the "bad news" to Deniz about having to go to Milan instead. Seriously, all these chicks wanting Deniz's autograph? Give me a fucking break. Maybe because I grew up in Los Angeles and saw celebs all the time wandering around, but this whole thing just makes me roll my eyes. So silly. People don't do that, but especially over some local boy in an incredibly bad advert. BUT YAY FOR THE TOKEN BLACK CHICK WANTING AN AUTOGRAPH. I never thought I'd see someone of color on this show. Ha! to Nadja checking Marian when Deniz was talking to those fangirls and he remarks that Deniz got that from him. Her ego response was great. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ... Vanessa is in another tight top - hot pink this time - with a low rise skirt with a lingering side shot on her stomach. Seriously, why does wardrobe insist on putting her in such an unflattering outfit?? They can do better than that for her! Juli/ Oliver is still a DOA storyline. Nina is still a sour bitch. At least those are constants. Diana's hair color is still bothering me though the cut is cute. That whatever color she is going for just totally washes her out. Annette and Ingo under the table! HA! On a shallow note, Igor and the stubble is killing me. I have so much love for it. Yes, I guess I am letting my secret out who my #1 draft choice is from all the shows. Like y'all didn't suspect it already.
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Post by amber80 on May 17, 2008 13:51:15 GMT -5
*First of all: why does it have to be sooooooo much harder to understand what they're saying on AWZ than that it is on VL? I really try, but I keep missing stuff. Ah well, most of the time I understand enough. * I agree with you, Bonobochick, about these girls asking for photo's and autographs. It had me almost rolling my eyes out... Completely unbelievable! Nadja's comment about Deniz inheriting his big ego from his dad was priceless. ;D And yes, Vanessa's pink top was not flattering at all!! Just as bad as the red one. Poor girl! She really could look a lot better. Roman at Ingo and Annette: 'Sometimes it hard to love you!' -> LOL! Annette and Ingo are so much fun together; much better than the boring Juli/Oliver couple. They almost make me doze off. (They should let Oliver take his shirt off more often; I would be instantly awake... ;D How predictable was all 'the tickets as a surprise/Vanessa finding out/Deniz not being able to go/Vanessa dissapointed' stuff btw? Not really original...
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Post by amber80 on May 21, 2008 13:33:13 GMT -5
I have one completely shallow thing to say: shirtless Oliver is gorgeous... (Too bad Juli is booooooooring ) And all the sausage eating in today's episode was way too funny... ;D
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Post by lolaruns on May 21, 2008 13:40:45 GMT -5
Who wudda thunk? It's not Ollian that brings me out for my 1000th+ post. It's RIngo ;D Honestly, this episode just made me sad in that it made me think that Deniz really is the worst thing that happened to this show. I'm sorry bonobo, I know you love Igor, but really, this show made me dream of a version where Deniz just goes back to wherever he came from so both Roman and Vanessa can go back to being fun nice, non-asshole characters and they can one day write in a *proper* boyfriend for Roman rather than having him pant after Deniz. It's just stunning how much better off the show would be if Deniz wasn't around. I'm just so over him it's not funny. Anyway, my picturized guide to the episode. Some random RIngo Bromance: AnRingo OTP Obviously not content to hand the crown for best use of sausage symbolism to VL AWZ stages a full on sausage party and the manly man of AWZ prove that everybody loves a good sausage. Ingo: Roman *no comment* Oliver: Awww, I love me some Roman: Vanessa - Deniz = Improvement We end with some gratuituous shots of Dr. Sommer: Juli/Oliver, particularly the first kissing scene in this episode grossed me out like crazy. I kept waiting for Maximilian to offer Jenny sex instead of drugs to "improve her focus" because everybody is always pressuring him about her performance.
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Post by ivaniv on May 21, 2008 13:44:09 GMT -5
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Post by Bonobochick on May 21, 2008 13:58:14 GMT -5
Who wudda thunk? It's not Ollian that brings me out for my 1000th+ post. It's RIngo ;D Honestly, this episode just made me sad in that it made me think that Deniz really is the worst thing that happened to this show. I'm sorry bonobo, I know you love Igor, but really, this show made me dream of a version where Deniz just goes back to wherever he came from so both Roman and Vanessa can go back to being fun nice, non-asshole characters and they can one day write in a *proper* boyfriend for Roman rather than having him pant after Deniz. It's just stunning how much better off the show would be if Deniz wasn't around. I'm just so over him it's not funny. I love me some Igor. I haven't been shy about that... though maybe I should? ... but I am not blind when it comes to not only Deniz being a tool but how badly VaDeRo is being written. I've been thinking that for a while that the writers want to drag this triangle out even though it's totally circling the drain at this point. They need to change something... the most obvious choice being bringing in a new man for Roman... because the triangle has never really worked and it's gotten progressively more circular & silly. The TIIC have done a poor job of making us see Deniz's conflict so he just comes out looking like a selfish asshole, they've about crucified Vanessa's character to the point I can barely stand to look at her perpetually sour face, and Roman is just starting to seem level headed instead of stalkerish though he still needs to at least TRY to move on. I posted my thoughts about what this triangle has done to the 3 characters involved in the Vanessa/Deniz/Roman thread earlier today. VaDeRo reminds me, and this is NOT a good thing, of Passions neverending Therea/Ethan/Gwen triangle.
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Post by amber80 on May 21, 2008 13:59:42 GMT -5
Lol at the ass slapping! ;D Great screencaps!
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Post by lolaruns on May 21, 2008 14:03:11 GMT -5
I love me some Igor. I haven't been shy about that... though maybe I should? ... but I am not blind when it comes to not only Deniz being a tool but how badly VaDeRo is being written. I've been thinking that for a while that the writers want to drag this triangle out even though it's totally circling the drain at this point. They need to change something... the most obvious choice being bringing in a new man for Roman... because the triangle has never really worked and it's gotten progressively more circular & silly. The TIIC have done a poor job of making us see Deniz's conflict so he just comes out looking like a selfish asshole, they've about crucified Vanessa's character to the point I can barely stand to look at her perpetually sour face, and Roman is just starting to seem level headed instead of stalkerish though he still needs to at least TRY to move on. I posted my thoughts about what this triangle has done to the 3 characters involved in the Vanessa/Deniz/Roman thread earlier today. VaDeRo reminds me, and this is NOT a good thing, of Passions neverending Therea/Ethan/Gwen triangle. See to me the difference is that Roman and Vanessa are at least still capable of being cute and amusing and FUN once they are away from Deniz. Meanwhile Deniz at this point is an asshole even when he is all by himself (let's say with Marian or Nina or whoever). I could maybe picture Vanessa being fun again in a new romance (maybe with a de-related Ben), I could definitely picture Roman being fun again with a new guy. But Deniz? He's just hollow. They could bring on a new guy or girl for him and I just can't picture myself enjoying it ever.
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Post by blueocean80 on May 21, 2008 14:03:30 GMT -5
Norman Kalle aka Dr. Oliver Sommer, from his homepage. Not exactly what we are used to see *blinks* Who. Is. That? I mean, what's his role in AWZ?
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Post by Bonobochick on May 21, 2008 14:04:18 GMT -5
Norman Kalle aka Dr. Oliver Sommer, from his homepage. Not exactly what we are used to see *blinks* Who. Is. That? I mean, what's his role in AWZ? The character he plays is Dr. Oliver Sommer and he's my #2 eye candy on AWZ.
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Post by ivaniv on May 21, 2008 14:06:38 GMT -5
Oliver is hot, but that Stanford girl, Juli (sp?) bores me to tears I was asked to do one more GIF
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Post by Bonobochick on May 21, 2008 14:09:09 GMT -5
I love me some Igor. I haven't been shy about that... though maybe I should? ... but I am not blind when it comes to not only Deniz being a tool but how badly VaDeRo is being written. I've been thinking that for a while that the writers want to drag this triangle out even though it's totally circling the drain at this point. They need to change something... the most obvious choice being bringing in a new man for Roman... because the triangle has never really worked and it's gotten progressively more circular & silly. The TIIC have done a poor job of making us see Deniz's conflict so he just comes out looking like a selfish asshole, they've about crucified Vanessa's character to the point I can barely stand to look at her perpetually sour face, and Roman is just starting to seem level headed instead of stalkerish though he still needs to at least TRY to move on. I posted my thoughts about what this triangle has done to the 3 characters involved in the Vanessa/Deniz/Roman thread earlier today. VaDeRo reminds me, and this is NOT a good thing, of Passions neverending Therea/Ethan/Gwen triangle. See to me the difference is that Roman and Vanessa are at least still capable of being cute and amusing and FUN once they are away from Deniz. Meanwhile Deniz at this point is an asshole even when he is all by himself (let's say with Marian or Nina or whoever). I could maybe picture Vanessa being fun again in a new romance (maybe with a de-related Ben), I could definitely picture Roman being fun again with a new guy. But Deniz? He's just hollow. They could bring on a new guy or girl for him and I just can't picture myself enjoying it ever. And this angers me because we've seen Igor show Deniz as full of life and full of emotion. We know the actor is capable of showing it cause he did it with Deniz's coming out and the initial romance with Roman, so it makes me think that TIIC have no idea what they're doing with VaDeRo or they're just stalling the storyline to draw it out for reasons only they think are good. It's like a rudder-less ship that is sinking. I still have hope, which is why I watch and will watch, but I am so bitter because it's like TIIC refuse to do better than this scheissdreck when it comes to moving the storyline forward. I am gobsmacked at their inability to want to do better.
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Post by amber80 on May 21, 2008 14:15:49 GMT -5
Oliver is hot, but that Stanford girl, Juli (sp?) bores me to tears I'm agreeing with you 200%!
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Post by lolaruns on May 21, 2008 14:22:04 GMT -5
Honestly, at this point I just no longer care. Probably aided by the fact that ID is doing exactly squat to pull anything out of the storyline. Sure the writing sucks but at least DG and JA occasionally pull out performances.
Cute only gets you so far and at this point I just couldn't care less.
For the record, I never thought Igor was that great of an actor. I always found him pretty over the top and he certainly hasn't been winning me over with the most recent material.
Besides, at this point I feel that Deniz just isn't an interesting enough character for AWZ which after all lives on quirky characters. Deniz is just blegh. I don't care about him, I don't give a shit about his sexuality problems, I don't give a damn about his relationship with his father. At this point he could do naked jumping jacks in every episode and I still wouldn't care.
Even if Ringo will never have any sex, give me them over Deniz any day. At least they are entertaining and amusing.
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Post by Bonobochick on May 21, 2008 14:40:22 GMT -5
Honestly, at this point I just no longer care. Probably aided by the fact that ID is doing exactly squat to pull anything out of the storyline. Sure the writing sucks but at least DG and JA occasionally pull out performances. Cute only gets you so far and at this point I just couldn't care less. For the record, I never thought Igor was that great of an actor. I always found him pretty over the top and he certainly hasn't been winning me over with the most recent material. Besides, at this point I feel that Deniz just isn't an interesting enough character for AWZ which after all lives on quirky characters. Deniz is just blegh. I don't care about him, I don't give a shit about his sexuality problems, I don't give a damn about his relationship with his father. At this point he could do naked jumping jacks in every episode and I still wouldn't care. Even if Ringo will never have any sex, give me them over Deniz any day. At least they are entertaining and amusing. Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on Igor's acting chops. I think he's good when given something to work with. I understand your frustration with the character of Deniz but I am not to the point that I want him off my screen. Now Nina, I want off my screen. Pronto. People on this show seem to forgive easily. Shameful.
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Post by lolaruns on May 21, 2008 14:53:38 GMT -5
To me Deniz is at the moment just a pointless walking cardboard. And if Roman actually takes him back it will just make him look shallow in his eyes. Deniz has just never done anything that makes him moderately deserving of my sympathy at this point. The goodwill is just so over on my side it's not even funny. Whawhawha, you might have sexual identity issues (which you aren't even selling in anything resembling a believable and likable way; see cardboard) but that's just no excuse for being an asshole.
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Post by stuartsez on May 22, 2008 23:03:21 GMT -5
I just saw the infamous 05.21 SAUSAGEFEST 2008 clips... and who do TIIC think they're kidding? Hot as Deniz is, Roman has more chemistry in a single glance with Ingo than he's ever had with the young Herr Ozturk. The butt-slap! The head-on-shoulder, not once, not twice, but 3 times in one episode! The little grins, the eyebrows, the face-smushies. They've got so much chemistry together it even spills over to Annette. I'm 120% gay, but I'd still love to see a Roman/Ingo/Annette threesome.
Please tell me I'm not the only one who see this?
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Post by Bonobochick on May 22, 2008 23:33:58 GMT -5
I just saw the infamous 05.21 SAUSAGEFEST 2008 clips... and who do TIIC think they're kidding? Hot as Deniz is, Roman has more chemistry in a single glance with Ingo than he's ever had with the young Herr Ozturk. The butt-slap! The head-on-shoulder, not once, not twice, but 3 times in one episode! The little grins, the eyebrows, the face-smushies. They've got so much chemistry together it even spills over to Annette. I'm 120% gay, but I'd still love to see a Roman/Ingo/Annette threesome. Please tell me I'm not the only one who see this? I don't think you're the only one who sees it and I think they all have great chemistry, I just don't think it's sexual chemistry though it is very playful and flirtatious. I mean, I am sure we've all had relationships with people we're close to and it comes off totally flirtatious like that but it's not on a true sexual interest level. I've had some guy friends like that, even a gal friend or two where we've acted like that just because our comfort level was so great. YMMV.
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Post by lolaruns on May 23, 2008 0:55:24 GMT -5
At this point even sexless Roman looks *happier* and more himself with Ingo and Anette than he does with Deniz. Ergo, at this point I pick Ingo and Anette. At this point I just get horrible uncomfortable from the scenes DeRo still have together.
Does that mean that an actual real life InAnRo threesome could ever be anything but heartache? No. Because of how the characters are. Doesn't mean that they aren't awesome together. Any romance of Roman with Deniz or anybody will have a hard time living up to that.
I think that Dennis Grabosch is somebody who has excellent chemistry, particularly of the friendship kind with everybody. And that the actors of Ingo and Anette have the same (just take Ingo's trainer scenes with Deniz for example). So when all of them come together it's like a triple threat of the chemistry dynamos of the show and they just gell well.
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Gabi
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Post by Gabi on May 23, 2008 7:07:20 GMT -5
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