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Post by Zathras on Dec 3, 2015 20:56:37 GMT -5
There is a thread to discuss spoilers, you know . I can't tell if you're discussing a clip that I haven't seen yet or spoilers. So to be safe I'm moving the post to spoiler discussion (some of what you've said is spoiler-ish). I'll move it back if it turns out to not be.
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Post by anthonyl on Dec 4, 2015 0:36:26 GMT -5
I'm not going to outright discuss the spoilers here, but I wish they were spending this time developing a new storyline for Elias instead of more endless Lari drama. Ive waited long enough, honestly. There's no arguing that. And Lari can go **** himself for being "shocked" Elias is being supportive. You don't deserve his support, and that better be why he's shocked, with his deadbeat moocher whore ass. Given their history and how selfish and self-absorbed Elias has been in the very recent past, I'm not only shocked that Elias is being 'supportive', I find it suspicious. LOL...
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Post by gidi on Dec 4, 2015 8:15:17 GMT -5
I'm not going to outright discuss the spoilers here, but I wish they were spending this time developing a new storyline for Elias instead of more endless Lari drama. Ive waited long enough, honestly. There's no arguing that. And Lari can go **** himself for being "shocked" Elias is being supportive. You don't deserve his support, and that better be why he's shocked, with his deadbeat moocher whore ass. Everyone has his taste . i want larias . Elias was rresponsible for some of the problems. It was not easy to Lari from the home he came...
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Post by vesper on Dec 4, 2015 12:17:43 GMT -5
wait, what is going on? is Lari back? are him and Elias interacting? what did I miss?
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Post by lexmoon on Dec 4, 2015 15:55:13 GMT -5
wait, what is going on? is Lari back? are him and Elias interacting? what did I miss? Lari is not back yet. i think he is due back next week or the week after that
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Post by daleeryohm on Dec 4, 2015 17:12:50 GMT -5
There's spoilers out, vesper. Kalle's parents get married and Lari goes scorched earth, revealing Ilja's paternity after crashing the wedding. Elias is supportive instead of judgmental. Because that's how you react to finding out your ex-boyfriend knocked up his new boyfriend's sister.
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Post by Zathras on Dec 4, 2015 20:22:56 GMT -5
Which spoiler says that Lari reveals Ilja's (assumed) paternity? The only ones I see say he causes drama and later that the secret is out.
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Post by daleeryohm on Dec 4, 2015 21:17:24 GMT -5
Whatever he does ends up causing the secret to come out.
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Post by vesper on Dec 8, 2015 7:30:35 GMT -5
daleeryohm thanks. I dunno why Elias would supportive of Lari still, after everything they went through, but I guess it's in his nature to be a good person.
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Post by daleeryohm on Dec 8, 2015 10:06:40 GMT -5
They've tried too hard in returning Elias to his original characterization, that theyre applying it at a senseless time for it and even not treating him like a real person. He can be shocked and angry and sad and not automatically be a rescuer and a cheerleader, and finding out about everything would be a time appropriate for the former.
I feel like some good Elias stuff has to be coming soon. We just have to get through the last of this baby drama.
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Post by Zathras on Dec 8, 2015 20:42:44 GMT -5
Maybe, but Elias has been back for over a month already and hasn't really done much of anything yet. That's not a good sign for how the show plans to use him.
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Post by daleeryohm on Dec 9, 2015 3:28:20 GMT -5
He's one of their most popular characters and members of the cast. While it's frustrating as the audience, I'm sure there's just some pragmatic reason for it. He was on hiatus from the show, and they have to fully run the other storylines theyve had going.
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Post by vesper on Dec 9, 2015 22:20:47 GMT -5
He's one of their most popular characters and members of the cast. While it's frustrating as the audience, I'm sure there's just some pragmatic reason for it. He was on hiatus from the show, and they have to fully run the other storylines theyve had going. Is he? cause I am very insecure about where he stands too. :/
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Post by kevvoi on Feb 17, 2016 17:10:10 GMT -5
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Post by dalphine on Feb 17, 2016 19:15:31 GMT -5
I'm glad they will be back on screen next week.
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Post by cheerios on Mar 4, 2016 3:54:11 GMT -5
If Kalle does cheat on Lari in a drunken stupor, I can't see Lari ending the relationship. Considering what happen with Elias and also Sanni, I can see Lari thinking Kalle is justify. He'll be angry and hurt, but Lari doesn't seem to like to rock boats and Kalle and him just got back together. So perhaps Lari thinks he deserves it for what he put Kalle through and will forgive him, wanting to make try and make the relationship work.
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Post by anthonyl on Mar 26, 2016 10:12:23 GMT -5
Ridiculous. Elias has no business telling Lari anything. And he's only doing it because he wants Lari for himself, even though I'm sure he'll tell himself otherwise. Move on Elias, though he'll probably stand around waiting to 'be a friend' for Lari now that's he's done what he could to split them up. LOL..
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Post by Zathras on Mar 26, 2016 15:58:24 GMT -5
I agree. Lari & Kalle's relationship is none of his business.
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Post by LadyArmand on Mar 26, 2016 21:41:59 GMT -5
No, Lari and Kalle's relationship is none of Elias's business. But the spoilers as usual are vague. Remember that according to the spoilers Lari sees Elias with Jesse. What does he see them doing that makes him confused? Are they just talking or is there some physical contact involved that makes Lari start asking questions? This is Kalle's lie not Elias'. There are times that Lari can be like a dog with a bone. Maybe because of whatever he sees between Elias and Jesse (and because of the lies that Kalle told him) he keeps after Elias about it.
Let's also remember (before we put Elias up on a cross and crucify him) that Elias had resolved not to tell Lari anything (even though he clearly wants him for himself). He put Lari's happiness above what he wants (which is something that I have yet to see Lari do for him, but I digress). So something must change that makes him tell Lari the truth.
It could turn out that Elias tells him simply because he wants to tell him. And it could be that he tells him because Lari keeps hounding him about Jesse, because he thinks that Jesse is into girls, maybe he doesn't want Elias to get hurt. I reserve the right to revisit this once it has aired and we see how it all plays out.
Trust me I want Elias as far away from the shit fest that is Lari (the emotional vampire) and Kalle (the lush) as possible. I want him so far away that both of them are nothing more than a faded picture that he vaguely remembers. However, the writers of this show seem to have different plans and thus Elias is once again thrown into the middle of this nonsense.
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Post by anthonyl on Mar 31, 2016 22:21:10 GMT -5
So Elias tries to kiss Lari and then tells him Kalle cheated? I bet Lari rejects Elias and then he tells him about the cheating out of anger and jealousy. I need for Lari to forgive Kale and they stay together, not because I'm rooting for Kalle/Lari but I'm sick of Elias and he shouldn't be rewarded for being so petty and vengeful.
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Post by HQ75 on Apr 1, 2016 14:27:49 GMT -5
We don't really know the context of what happens. I find the spoilers always sound worse than what is actually shown on screen. Whatever Elias' feelings, If I was Lari I would be very hurt to know everyone around me knows my boyfriend cheated and I don't. When Lari cheated he told Kalle himself and was ready to deal with the consequences. Kalle has dragged this out and involved like 5 people in his lie now. There was a time when Lari was constantly making a play for Elias and Elias turned him down and no one accused Lari of being petty or vengeful when he was dogging Elias to leave Miska. At the end of the day everyone should just be honest and up front with what they've done and how they feel.
There is no point in all the subterfuge. If everyone and their auntie didn't already know about Jesse I'd say maybe Lari never needs to know about the one night stand.
At present count Sanni, Tale, Elias, Ulla, Ismo, Kalle's best friend (who is secretly having an affair with Lari's box) knows. That is a lot of people in close proximity. The truth is gonna come out.
Elias doesn't have magical powers. Even if he tells Lari with horrible intentions (I'm not questioning his intentions just saying IF) it's still Lari's choice whether he forgives Kalle or not and stays with him or not.
I think Lari has proven wants to be with Kalle so I don't know why Elias telling Lari should be an issues.
Now trying to kiss Lari, that's a whole other thing I'd need to see the context of before I can have an opinion on it.
Lari tried to kiss Elias on his birthday and nothing horrible happened, they talked it out.
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Post by justinate on May 15, 2016 9:59:17 GMT -5
The Larias reunion was inevitable since the show regarded them as their OTP but I'm bemused by how quickly they're throwing them back together after YEARS apart and even last month Lari rejecting Elias's advances without any inkling of residual feelings for him. I was impressed how they were taking their own sweet time with the reunion, given the rapid turnaround that soap fans have come to demand (Gone are the days when people longed for slow-burn romances), but in the end they've just thrown all that buildup for a quick fix. Why? I don't get it. They've waited this long; why not another month or two?
The reunion scenes had better be worth it, that's all I'm going to say.
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Post by dalphine on May 15, 2016 10:18:30 GMT -5
I think they have dragged the reunion out long enough, so I'm glad their finally getting back together.
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Post by justinate on May 15, 2016 12:03:22 GMT -5
It's not that. It's that it makes no sense to rush it now. Less than one month ago Lari showed no romantic interest in Elias and was appalled when Elias planted a kiss on him. Now in the blink of an eye he falls back in love with Elias and forgets all about Kalle (who is in the throes of serious alcoholism).
I actually feel sorry for Kalle. Nobody cares about him enough to notice how hard he's been hitting the bottle lately - not his parents, his sister, his so-called friends or boyfriend. The guy has been blackout drunk. Won't anyone get him help? (And before someone says - oh he's a doctor, he should recognize the signs of addiction and get treatment himself - that's not how it works.)
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Post by anthonyl on May 15, 2016 19:42:44 GMT -5
Exactly. It's been at least 2 years since they broke up and Lari has over and over told Elias he was not interested. When he was with Kalle, he said no thanks and even after he and Kalle broke up Lari still said he wasn't interested. Now, all of a sudden, without any growing closeness on screen, Lari is back in love with Elias as if he hadn't committed to Kalle no less than a few weeks ago? It makes no sense. Why the rush without any actual on screen progression towards a reunion? It makes it all sort of shallow, IMO. And frankly, it kind of bothers me that this all came about because Elias blabbed about Kalle's cheating. It's like Elias is being rewarded for talking about something that was none of his business. No, Kalle shouldn't have cheated, but Elias was no the one to say anything about it. Personally, I never found Elias and Lari very compatible and they seemed toxic to me. I never believed they were this great love. And the show has done nothing with this slapped together reunion to change that belief.
I wonder though if it's quite over between Lari and Kalle though. Who knows? Maybe Lari will be the one to help Kalle with his drinking problem and you know Elias won't like that....
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