gidi
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Post by gidi on Nov 21, 2013 14:10:07 GMT -5
Elias is doing it again - he's too quick with his decisions and he'll regret it again. remember is age
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Post by penguino on Nov 21, 2013 16:18:37 GMT -5
But still he suppose to be the sensible and affectionate one and he acted slutty when he went to bed with a stranger a few hours after he broke up (sort of) with Lari. And this time Lari won't hide anything, he'll just tell Elias the truth - that he needs some time alone to think about his life. If Elias is so in love with Lari, why couldn't he give lari this time (some reasonable time), especially after Lari gave him clear sign that he's into him. Instead of that he's going for a date.
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Post by Zathras on Nov 21, 2013 20:01:07 GMT -5
I'm going to wait until we see the circumstances. I can definitely see things that would reasonably cause Elias to go on a date with Miska. Lari has that tendency to not say everything.
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Post by cheerios on Dec 2, 2013 5:31:16 GMT -5
I haven't seen what happened, but I can see why Elias could cheat like that. He's gone through so much with Lari and maybe he just snapped. Plus he's young and impulsive things like this do happen to the youth.
I wonder if Lari's father reacting badly to Lari leaving the camp and still being gay. That he might strike out against Elias and hurt him badly. Maybe badly enough that he has to go to the hospital. Lari would have to choose between his father and Elias. And then I can see Elias's father not wanting Elias around Lari because he sees Lari as bad news for his son. And doesn't want Lari to be the reason Elias gets hurt. That would be a lot of drama for them.
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Post by penguino on Dec 6, 2013 10:23:59 GMT -5
Spoilers from missfinlandia's tumblr page:
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Post by dryersheetz on Dec 6, 2013 10:39:43 GMT -5
So Elias has the pick of the litter. Must be nice to be the Belle of the Ball, so to speak.
I don't understand why Elias would think to call Lari when Lari declared it to be over. I understand that they're setting this situation up to be a love triangle of sorts, however Lari and Elias are for sure broken up at this point, so Lari has no room to be upset with Elias for moving on (even though he may want him back).
I don't think that Lari's characterization of what happened when Elias hooked up with Miska is entirely fair. I'm not saying that either of them are in the right, however informing your boyfriend that you're staying in a gay reparative therapy camp by choice and omitting the fact that you're just doing it to please your father pretty much says "We're over", doesn't it?
Finally, I wonder if Janne will conveniently forget that he cheated on Iida and give Elias a good talking to...
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Post by Zathras on Dec 6, 2013 19:38:19 GMT -5
It doesn't seem to me that they're setting up a triangle. I think they're just throwing obstacles in the way of an almost inevitable reunion between Elias and Lari. They haven't developed Miska at all, and I doubt they will.
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Post by dryersheetz on Dec 6, 2013 20:50:54 GMT -5
It doesn't seem to me that they're setting up a triangle. I think they're just throwing obstacles in the way of an almost inevitable reunion between Elias and Lari. They haven't developed Miska at all, and I doubt they will. The only reason I think they're going that route is that Miska is being billed as a regular, so it would appear that they're planning at least some development for him. He's supposed to be much more featured after the winter break in January. He's not integrated into any other parts of the story (as far as I know), which means that his development would almost exclusively be alongside Lari and Elias. I do, however, agree that they're going to have an almost certain reunion. The producers seem pretty aware of Lari and Elias's following.
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Post by dmagiclight on Dec 30, 2013 15:45:41 GMT -5
I FEEL SORRY FOR LARI
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gidi
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Post by gidi on Dec 31, 2013 1:03:25 GMT -5
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Post by gidi on Mar 5, 2014 9:26:50 GMT -5
So it seems even miska fall for elias ut seemd elias and larry get back together
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Post by Zathras on Mar 5, 2014 20:46:07 GMT -5
We don't know that Elias and Lari get back together. They've been setting up a typical triangle for a while. It just looks like they're going to make it more explicit in the next couple of weeks.
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Post by gidi on Mar 17, 2014 10:55:44 GMT -5
but the pic of cakr and candles..... if not I shall be verydisapointment and not evaluate this story any more
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Post by dryersheetz on Mar 18, 2014 6:49:57 GMT -5
I'm super excited for Kalle to finally be in on this action. I admit it's a little weird that Lari and Kalle will be hanging out, especially because when they were last in the same place, Kalle was dating Katariina.
Kalle needs some fun and bad decision making - he's been having family drama for the past season, and I will personally love seeing them in a gay bar.
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Post by justinate on Mar 26, 2014 10:12:03 GMT -5
I would be interested in a Lari/Kalle hookup TBH ... after all Lari is 18 now ...
I'm very glad that Elias rejects Lari. It was bad enough that he decided to lie to Elias, but it would have made him very wishy-washy (and the complete opposite of what was attractive about his character in the first place) if he had succumbed to Lari's charms barely moments after pledging his love to Miska.
Elias should have invited Janne and Tale to the birthday party, although that would have made it harder for Lari to plant one on Elias. Still, it would have made him more innocent.
I'm sad they recast Katariina. I liked the previous actress. But such is the nature of soaps! Let's hope our boys can avoid recasts.
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Post by justinate on Apr 2, 2014 9:04:16 GMT -5
An affair between Lari and Kalle would be nice. Elias continuing to string Miska along is not.
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Post by cheerios on Apr 17, 2014 3:01:51 GMT -5
How much older than Lari is Kalle? Two, five, ten?
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Post by gidi on Apr 18, 2014 6:11:24 GMT -5
How much older than Lari is Kalle? Two, five, ten? kalle is 33(born 1980)
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Post by cheerios on Apr 18, 2014 12:22:56 GMT -5
How much older than Lari is Kalle? Two, five, ten? kalle is 33(born 1980) He's a pretty good looking 33 year old. Hopefully he will find love out there.
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Post by daleeryohm on Apr 23, 2014 6:55:37 GMT -5
There's a spoiler on facebook that Miska proposes to Elias and they do get engaged. No other details yet besides Elias' being torn because of his feelings for Lari of course.
So why's he accepting the proposal? He's got more than enough reason turning Miska down for the simple fact theyre still in high school and haven't even been dating that long? Whats Miska doing proposing in the first place?!
I know its soap, but my lord. Insanity.
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Post by justinate on Apr 23, 2014 10:08:19 GMT -5
What the ... Is that spoiler legit?!
What's with the recent drive to get gay couples married off, no matter their age? While I believe Miska is out of school (and so should Elias, if Lari who was in the same year as him is 18) they're still far too young to get wed. It also doesn't help that Elias's relationship with Miska has taken place largely offscreen - we heard him say that he spent the night at Miska's place but has he even met Miska's family yet? At least with Lari they always showed his dad and now a cousin, and had a detailed backstory: dead mum, only child, etc. Miska is still very much a nondescript character months after he was introduced, with no real attempt to flesh him out, yet they're now pushing him into an engagement with one of the show's legacy characters? How is the audience expected to have any emotional investment in this engagement?
I stand by my earlier opinion that Elias and Miska are better matched than Elias and Lari, and that Lari should explore a relationship with Kalle. I would even be up for the show having them behave destructively and get back together under the delusion of their epic love, BUT only if they belatedly realize the spark has left them. Then they have to grovel to get back their "alternate" love interests. Now that would be good soap, IMHO.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Apr 23, 2014 22:25:14 GMT -5
What the ... Is that spoiler legit?! What's with the recent drive to get gay couples married off, no matter their age? While I believe Miska is out of school (and so should Elias, if Lari who was in the same year as him is 18) they're still far too young to get wed. It also doesn't help that Elias's relationship with Miska has taken place largely offscreen - we heard him say that he spent the night at Miska's place but has he even met Miska's family yet? At least with Lari they always showed his dad and now a cousin, and had a detailed backstory: dead mum, only child, etc. Miska is still very much a nondescript character months after he was introduced, with no real attempt to flesh him out, yet they're now pushing him into an engagement with one of the show's legacy characters? How is the audience expected to have any emotional investment in this engagement?I stand by my earlier opinion that Elias and Miska are better matched than Elias and Lari, and that Lari should explore a relationship with Kalle. I would even be up for the show having them behave destructively and get back together under the delusion of their epic love, BUT only if they belatedly realize the spark has left them. Then they have to grovel to get back their "alternate" love interests. Now that would be good soap, IMHO. I wonder the same thing about the fast track to marriage, babies and gay men "standing by the men" that have abused them in the beginning of their storylines. It would be fantastic, if these pairings could end up realizing that what originally got them together (sexual desire/attraction) DOES change as you get older, wiser and realize that you've changed and the things that you accepted and tolerated from a relationship/person has changed. I don't get why that's so frowned upon. That's how life and more storylines could be developed for all of these characters.
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Post by cheerios on Apr 24, 2014 13:02:53 GMT -5
I really hope Miska and Elias aren't planning anything that serious. They are way too young and they haven't been dating that long.
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Post by gidi on Apr 30, 2014 12:11:40 GMT -5
it seems they going to be engange but there hint it will not surviv and laris soon again together..in near future
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Post by cheerios on Apr 30, 2014 13:34:59 GMT -5
I'm glad the engagement is short lived, those two are way too young to be getting married. And seriously what is with trying to marry off every gay couple no matter the age or how long they have been together? I'm all for equality, but they're still just kids. They aren't even supporting themselves money wise. I do like Miska, but it's true they really haven't flush out his character enough for them to rush into such a serious commitment.
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