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Post by overtherainbow on Apr 9, 2012 17:07:26 GMT -5
Hotel Cæsar is the longest running Norwegian soap, it's been ongoing for 14 years. The series is about the rich Anker-Hansen family, and this family owns the hotel Cæsar. The series follows the life of the employees, and the rich family owning the hotel. I haven't watched this series in like 5 years.. so forgive me if I'm not completely updated, but I'll try to write what I know about it. Juni is an iconic character and has been with the show since the beginning. Her family, Anker-Hansen, owns the hotel, and her mother has long been running it, but now I think Juni has pretty much taken over. She was married to her husband Ragnar, and they had two kids together, Albert and Victoria. Albert and Victoria's parents had their fair share of problems, and eventually divorced when Albert and Victoria were teenagers. Ragnar then started dating a very outspoken and young woman named Bitten. She was pretty much a hippie. Anyway.. Albert was soon smitten with her, and he started a love affair with his dad's girlfriend. Bitten eventually became pregnant, and it was clear after the twins were born that they were Albert's children, not Ragnar's. It was a very crazy storyline, but I kinda liked it. Anyway.. Ragnar and Bitten broke up when he realized she had feelings for his son. Juni and Ragnar didn't like it of course, but they eventually both supported Albert's relationship with Bitten and the twins, named Sol (Sun) and Måne (Moon). Fast forward a few years, and Måne and Sol are today 17 years old. They just joined the show. They both moved in with their grandmother, Juni.. but their parents are away, on travel apparently.. they haven't been seen on this soap for years. They live with their grandmother right now, while their parents are away, at least to my understanding. Their grandfather, Ragnar, left the show many years ago too. Måne is apparently gay, his gay storyline started today, and I have to say.. it looks very promising. He played football (soccer) with some friends, and it was obvious he was quite smitten with a certain friend, and he was so freaked out/turned on that he ran out of the locker room without even taking a shower.. wonder why? The guy that Måne has a crush on is the same guy that his twin sister also has a crush on, so there's bound to be some drama there in the future. I'm pretty much sure that Tom, who is their crush, is straight. He's had relationships with women before. So I have my doubts that he and Måne will end up together, it will probably be Tom and Sol instead. The gay storyline has definitely started though. Måne is really cute, and I like the actor, and it already looks quite promising, so I have high hopes for this. I know we had a gay storyline here in Norway on a soap in the 90s, but this is the first time since that we have a gay character on our tv screens.. it must have been at least 15 years since the last time, and that time it was a stereotypical gay character.. we've had our fair share of lesbian characters on Norwegian tv, but very few gay ones, only two, including Måne (excluding reality tv gays). So this is pretty HUGE for us! The gay storyline look good, and no.. Måne is NOT a stereotypical gay character.. he's just a normal guy, a typical teenager. It's refreshing to see a gay character like that for once herein Norway. The storyline looks promising, and I honestly can't wait to see more of it! Just a few remarks in the end.. Ok, first I have to add that the names for the twins, Sol (Sun) and Måne (Moon), are NOT regular Norwegian names at all. They're very unusual, and I find them quite weird. Then again.. their mother was a full blown hippie, so it fits with their history. Second, I will try to see if I can post this storyline, or if I can find someone else to post it.. I'll try to add subtitles too. I won't promise anything, but I'll certainly do my best to get this storyline out there. It might take some time though, so please be patient with me Sorry this post became so long. I just thought you would want the backstory of the show and the characters
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Post by kevvoi on Apr 9, 2012 18:03:06 GMT -5
Here is a recent clip I found with the twins:
Courtesy of The4400FalloutFan20, who has several other small clips, but nothing systematic.
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Post by overtherainbow on Apr 10, 2012 6:45:10 GMT -5
Here is a recent clip I found with the twins: Courtesy of The4400FalloutFan20, who has several other small clips, but nothing systematic. Thanks for the heads up, Kevvoi. I'll ask the guy uploading if he can upload Måne's storyline too.. if not then I might have to upload it myself. Anyways.. I have watched some videos of them, and I found out why they're now living with their grandma.. it's because their parents are having problems, so they moved them home to be with their grandma while they work things out. I also gotta say that I can not stand the name Måne. Who the hell names their kid Moon? I mean.. WTF?!?! It's so incredibly stupid and weird. It's absolutely not a normal Norwegian name at all. But then again.. like I said.. the twins mom is a hippie after all, and.. Måne can get away with such a horrible name, because he's just so offing cute! ;D And here's a few more videos of the twins: Sol and Måne knocking on Juni and Arnfinn's door:Sol and Måne have breakfast with Juni and Arnfinn:
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Post by kevvoi on Apr 10, 2012 7:15:38 GMT -5
I would like to see his storyline with English subtitles. I liked Andra Avenyn, which is as far as I am aware about the only Scandinavian gay storyline available (and I thought that one was Swedish). It is starting to be quite a trend with Gay football players
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Post by overtherainbow on Apr 10, 2012 7:47:09 GMT -5
I would like to see his storyline with English subtitles. I liked Andra Avenyn, which is as far as I am aware about the only Scandinavian gay storyline available (and I thought that one was Swedish). It is starting to be quite a trend with Gay football players First of all.. the guy behind Hotel Cæsar also created Andra Avenyn.. it's the same guy behind both shows. And yeah, Andra Avenyn is Swedish, while Hotel Cæsar is Norwegian, but the guy behind both shows is Swedish Maybe it's not a coincidence after all that both shows have gay characters? Hotel Cæsar had a lesbian character named Vilde like 3 or 4 years ago, but has never had a gay character.. which is truly a shame, because this soap is VERY popular amongst the gays, so it's about damn time they included a gay character I think. The soap has been on for 14 years after all. It's also the first time in a very, very long time that there's actually a gay character on Norwegian tv. The last time was in the 90s, in another, short-lived soap. And I couldn't stand that stereotypical gay guy It's like he was used just for comic release. We've had tons of lesbian characters on tv.. in Hotel Cæsar, Taxi, Venner og Fiender.. and there's probably a few others I have forgotten about. The thing is.. lesbian story lines have been fairly common here in Norway, but gay story lines have not.. I guess it's a safer bet to go with lesbians, since it's usually less controversial. But whatever, they're doing it now, so I'm very thankful for that! And it certainly looks promising, and the gay guy is cute as hell too! ;D I'm just so excited for this, you have no idea. I have been waiting for a Norwegian gay story line for many, many years.. so I'm just thrilled right now that it finally happened! ;D There's a new episode today.. so I will watch it, and I can report what happens in case anyone is interested. From what I've seen from the previews Måne is even more interested in Tom, and is kinda spying on him! Poor guy.. he totally has a crush, and his crush is totally straight. The episode yesterday was really good. He got tackled on the football field, and Tom somehow fell on top of him and Måne just looked into his eyes. He obviously felt something. Then there was a locker room scene afterwards.. they were going to take a shower after the match, but Måne freaked out and ran out instead It kinda reminded me of FOQ a little bit. BTW.. we're not talking about professional soccer players here, I think it was just something that the friends did to have fun.. they played a match together, just casual I'll see what I can do about this storyline.. trust me when I say that I will do my best to get this uploaded with subtitles, because it's kind of a big deal for Norway.. and the gay storyline actually looks quite good too.
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Post by karolyon3 on Apr 10, 2012 8:26:22 GMT -5
Seriously? I had no idea Hotel Cæsar finally brought on a gay male character! I haven't watched it for years now, though I watched it religiously back in the days of the Ellen/Vilde storyline. I guess I have to start watching it again. I just hope they do this storyline justice. It definitely looks promising.
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Post by overtherainbow on Apr 10, 2012 9:16:26 GMT -5
Seriously? I had no idea Hotel Cæsar finally brought on a gay male character! I haven't watched it for years now, though I watched it religiously back in the days of the Ellen/Vilde storyline. I guess I have to start watching it again. I just hope they do this storyline justice. It definitely looks promising. Yep.. I assume you're Norwegian? Sol and Måne are the children of Bitten and Albert. They are now teenagers, and just joined the soap. They were introduced a couple of weeks ago. I saw the episode yesterday, and it was sooo good! You could feel the intensity through the screen. The actor playing Måne is really good.. he was perfect when he freaked out in the locker room.. and that reaction when Tom fell on top of him on the football field.. OMG! ;D It was AMAZING! Oh yeah.. and did I mention the guy who plays Måne is really frikkin cute? ;D Too bad Måne is a lot hotter than his love interest though.. who I don't find attractive at all It's funny, because all the girls are supposed to swoon over him, but he really isn't that good looking.. I think Måne is much more beautiful. It's definitely official though.. the storyline already started yesterday! ;D There's also a couple of spoilers available, which are.. interesting.. to say the least ;D From TV2 about today's episode: www.tv2.no/tvguide/ Måne bærer på en hemmelighet.Måne og Sol er nemlig begge forelsket i Tom. Translation: Måne carries a secret. Måne and Sol are both in love with Tom. Here's a couple of pics.. of the twins, and Tom, their love interest: Disclaimer: I do not own any of the pics.. all rights are reserved their respectful owner.
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Post by kevvoi on Apr 10, 2012 9:27:09 GMT -5
All I have to say is cute
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Post by karolyon3 on Apr 10, 2012 9:56:34 GMT -5
Yep, I'm Norwegian. And this is really exciting! Now I just wish I had found about this sooner so I could have watched it on TV. I hope someone will find a way to upload the entire s/l to YouTube.
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Post by overtherainbow on Apr 10, 2012 10:21:33 GMT -5
Yep, I'm Norwegian. And this is really exciting! Now I just wish I had found about this sooner so I could have watched it on TV. I hope someone will find a way to upload the entire s/l to YouTube. Well.. the storyline continues today, and today's episode sounds good too!
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Post by ferdavid on Apr 10, 2012 10:24:03 GMT -5
it sounds interesting and bth boys are cuties can someone upload the episodes with subtitles? ..would be great!!
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Post by Ómar on Apr 10, 2012 12:37:02 GMT -5
Måne is so cute and adorable!! I just the the rest non-Norwegian speaker, would love English subtitles and a channel to upload the storyline!! It'a amazing to find new storylines! and hopefully this one will be promising Thank y'all for the pictures videos and info
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Post by overtherainbow on Apr 10, 2012 13:32:00 GMT -5
Måne is so cute and adorable!! I just the the rest non-Norwegian speaker, would love English subtitles and a channel to upload the storyline!! It'a amazing to find new storylines! and hopefully this one will be promising Thank y'all for the pictures videos and info Sure I am trying to get this storyline out there.. either by doing it myself or ask someone else to do it. But it's kinda complicated, because I don't know where to get a hold of the episodes, they're not available online, and I have looked. But I will continue to look, and ask around. The storyline is really good, and the gay guy is SO CUTE! And if/when the storyline gets uploaded I'll try to translate it Today's episode was good, though not as good as yesterday, considering he didn't actually spend any time together with Tom today, but still.. it was quite good. I don't know if you want me to write a summary, but.. I'll do it anyway, lol. It started with Måne looking at a video Tom filmed of himself with Måne's cell phone. He OBVIOUSLY likes him, because he played the video over and over again. Then there was another scene with Måne on the football field alone, training. It looks like he was thinking about something.. or maybe someone? The third scene was breakfast with his sister. She complained that his brother didn't do enough to hook them up, and she wasn't happy that he suggested football, because they never got to be alone. Måne said she has to do some of it herself, and that he's always there for her. They got into a fight, I can't remember everything Måne said, but it was about her always thinking about herself, and that she has no idea what she's talking about. Fourth scene: Måne is at the hotel, hiding and spying on Tom who works at the bar.. then he gets a call, it's his grandmother, asking him to pick up her credit card, to go shopping for clothes. Then all of a sudden someone comes up behind him and touches his shoulder. He obviously thinks it's Tom, but it's Vanessa.. they end up going shopping together.. at an expensive brand store. He picks out a jacket, and Vanessa says "I think it's good that men can show their feminine side" (wtf?!?! the jacket wasn't that feminine), and then Måne puts it back.. hahaha! And when he gets home his sister sees everything he bought, and freaks out.. she gives a speech that brands are the devil and "do you remember what we stand for?" Måne replies with "maybe I don't want to be we anymore." Måne actually had a lot of screen time this episode. Vanessa is obviously eyeing him now. I cannot stand that bitch.. ugh. She will obviously make a move sooner or later. I can picture her as a great f*g hag in the future though.. she obviously knows her fashion.. lol. Then there was the preview.. Måne wasn't in it. I'm not sure if he will show up tomorrow. I really, really hope someone can upload this storyline, because it is actually quite good. And Måne is so adorable and the actor playing him is really good.. you can just feel his pain/confusion. It's very emotional... he wants Tom so badly. I'm just afraid he'll end up getting hurt.
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Post by karolyon3 on Apr 10, 2012 16:11:25 GMT -5
Sure I am trying to get this storyline out there.. either by doing it myself or ask someone else to do it. But it's kinda complicated, because I don't know where to get a hold of the episodes, they're not available online, and I have looked. But I will continue to look, and ask around. The storyline is really good, and the gay guy is SO CUTE! And if/when the storyline gets uploaded I'll try to translate it I believe you can watch them online at TV2 Sumo, but I think you need to buy a subscription... And then there's the fact that you need to download them to add subtitles, but I suppose you could use a screen recorder for that (I remember I did that with some FoQ episodes at Antena3's website once). In any case, if you find a way to get a hold of the episodes, I could help with translating if you need it.
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Post by overtherainbow on Apr 10, 2012 16:22:24 GMT -5
Sure I am trying to get this storyline out there.. either by doing it myself or ask someone else to do it. But it's kinda complicated, because I don't know where to get a hold of the episodes, they're not available online, and I have looked. But I will continue to look, and ask around. The storyline is really good, and the gay guy is SO CUTE! And if/when the storyline gets uploaded I'll try to translate it I believe you can watch them online at TV2 Sumo, but I think you need to buy a subscription... And then there's the fact that you need to download them to add subtitles, but I suppose you could use a screen recorder for that (I remember I did that with some FoQ episodes at Antena3's website once). In any case, if you find a way to get a hold of the episodes, I could help with translating if you need it. Thanks for the info Well.. I don't have money right now.. but maybe I can do it later. Do you know if it's possible to record it with a DVR recorder? Maybe we can work together on this? It would probably be nice with some help with the subtitles. My English is not bad per se.. but I think it's kinda difficult to translate from Norwegian to English.. it's definitely easier to translate from English to Norwegian. Anyway.. I hope we can work something out.. because this storyline is really good!
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Post by karolyon3 on Apr 10, 2012 16:36:56 GMT -5
Thanks for the info Well.. I don't have money right now.. but maybe I can do it later. Do you know if it's possible to record it with a DVR recorder? Maybe we can work together on this? It would probably be nice with some help with the subtitles. My English is not bad per se.. but I think it's kinda difficult to translate from Norwegian to English.. it's definitely easier to translate from English to Norwegian. Anyway.. I hope we can work something out.. because this storyline is really good! Yeah, it did look really expensive (49 kr for just a week? Holy shit). I don't really know much about DVR recorders, but it certainly sounds possible. And yeah, sure, we can work together! Subbing seems really time-consuming, so it would probably be easier with help.
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Post by Ómar on Apr 10, 2012 16:52:06 GMT -5
It would be great if you two could subtitle it!! I don't know if all DVRs work like this, but there are definitely some that will let you keep the recording and load it to your computer, or you can also record with your computer. There are several ways to do this, but I'm not too much of an expert on it since I download all of the videos I sub.
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Post by overtherainbow on Apr 10, 2012 16:54:11 GMT -5
Thanks for the info Well.. I don't have money right now.. but maybe I can do it later. Do you know if it's possible to record it with a DVR recorder? Maybe we can work together on this? It would probably be nice with some help with the subtitles. My English is not bad per se.. but I think it's kinda difficult to translate from Norwegian to English.. it's definitely easier to translate from English to Norwegian. Anyway.. I hope we can work something out.. because this storyline is really good! Yeah, it did look really expensive (49 kr for just a week? Holy shit). I don't really know much about DVR recorders, but it certainly sounds possible. And yeah, sure, we can work together! Subbing seems really time-consuming, so it would probably be easier with help. Yep.. it is really expensive. I think it's shitty of them to not offer it for free. All the channels in USA offer people to watch the episodes online for free.. as does NRK, TV3 etc here in Norway. But oh well.. I guess they just want to make some more money.. sigh One week is really expensive, yes, but one month only costs slightly more than 100 kr though, which isn't so bad, all things considering.. I'll think about it. Can't promise anything though. But if I do figure out a way to do it.. then it would be very nice with some help subtitling, because it really is time consuming! And I am very busy these days.. so I would appreciate any help I could get. I'm sure we can figure something out
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Post by overtherainbow on Apr 11, 2012 13:00:17 GMT -5
Today's episode was soooo good! Måne showed up! YAY! and wow.. I have no words. This storyline is just so incredibly well done. I love it already. I'm not joking when I say it's one of the best gay story lines that I have ever seen.. hell, scratch that.. the last scene Måne was in today was so emotional, perfect, powerful! It's the best scene I have ever seen in a gay storyline. Damn.. I nearly got tears in my eyes.
I need to find a way to get this storyline out there, some way or another. It's just too good to miss!
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Post by karolyon3 on Apr 17, 2012 9:24:13 GMT -5
First part: Clipping was done by overtherainbow, subbing by me! Sorry if the subs are a bit weirdly paced, it's my first time using YouTube's CC system. I'll probably get the hang of it soon.
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Post by kevvoi on Apr 17, 2012 9:34:10 GMT -5
Thank you Karolyon3 and Overtherainbow for uploading this storyline!
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Post by Ómar on Apr 17, 2012 10:18:16 GMT -5
Karolyon3 and Overtherainbow Thank you!! And Karolyon3, don't worry. You'll get the hang of the subs very soon. The third video starts getting easier.
I know this is time consuming, but thank you again!!! I can't wait to see more of this!
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Post by karolyon3 on Apr 17, 2012 14:28:14 GMT -5
Part two: And no problem, guys!
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Post by Ómar on Apr 17, 2012 15:20:08 GMT -5
I loved the ending, So does this mean that Juni is nervous about telling her husband (?) that her grandchildren are staying for four months?? I'm assuming that their will be more problems with Mom and Dad so they will end up staying for more than that.
Thank you for the second clip!
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Post by overtherainbow on Apr 18, 2012 0:00:31 GMT -5
I loved the ending, So does this mean that Juni is nervous about telling her husband (?) that her grandchildren are staying for four months?? I'm assuming that their will be more problems with Mom and Dad so they will end up staying for more than that. Thank you for the second clip! Well.. he's not happy about it.. I'll tell you that You'll get to see more of his reaction in the next episode
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