Spoiler Discussion - Relaciones Peligrosas

[pru]

I agree, HQ.

I see no resemblance at all and I was shocked that this is suppose to be a remake of the other soap.

[davbust]

Well isn't this what people want?
I read so much that this is a bad remake of FoQ. But you have to remember that the idea was taken from FoQ and that it's not going to be an exact replica. What fun would that be?
That's why in the credits it says it's BASED on the scrips and not that it's a remake. I myself am happy it's like this because that means that there will be different outcomes and new things.

Plus it was pretty much hinted from the very beginning that it was going to be different in many aspects because FoQ was a TV series with seven seasons if I'm correct. I could be wrong. And a telenovela most likely runs for from 5-9 months. So less is going to be covered but in more detail. At least that's what I think. I mean I've seen my fair share telenovelas and Tv series.

[moonstruck-me]

Feb 16, 2012 3:11:38 GMT -5 davbust said:

Well isn't this what people want?
I read so much that this is a bad remake of FoQ. But you have to remember that the idea was taken from FoQ and that it's not going to be an exact replica. What fun would that be?
That's why in the credits it says it's BASED on the scrips and not that it's a remake. I myself am happy it's like this because that means that there will be different outcomes and new things.

Plus it was pretty much hinted from the very beginning that it was going to be different in many aspects because FoQ was a TV series with seven seasons if I'm correct. I could be wrong. And a telenovela most likely runs for from 5-9 months. So less is going to be covered but in more detail. At least that's what I think. I mean I've seen my fair share telenovelas and Tv series.

Yeah, it is based on FoQ and not a remake, which I'm very happy about!

Ale is based on Fer but so far they are nothing like each other at all.

Elements of the story in RP are also moving a lot faster than FoQ.

[josean06]

It is based off FoQ, and a lot of the aspects concerning some of the storylines do mirror the original. Unfortunately for me the main storyline is boring as hell, except for Mauricio. I want to see more Ale and the gang. At least in FoQ they gave all character somewhat equal screen time.

[tuffred]

I'm very hesitant to invest any emotion into this show. Just can't handle anymore gay funerals right now, just too insanely sad!

Am slowly getting hooked again, fighting back though.

[megachrisfan]

Feb 19, 2012 18:51:11 GMT -5 tuffred said:

I'm very hesitant to invest any emotion into this show. Just can't handle anymore gay funerals right now, just too insanely sad!

Am slowly getting hooked again, fighting back though.

The reason I am hesitant to invest any emotion is because telenovella's usually last only 6 to 9 months. The ratings for the show seem to say it is the most successful show for the station ever so I am hoping that they will extend.

[Ómar]

I'm very curious to know who that is in the coffin!! I can't think any of them being killed off. I just wish it's not Mauricio's mind because she seems to be the only one that is thinking straight when it comes to the Mauricio & Miranda thing. And in the website it states that it's someone close to Mauricio. His dad is not close by, so maybe it him(?), but then again, he has to go on trips and so on.

[Deleted]

my problem with the show is that mauricio and miranda is basically every episode and the other stories they show for like 1 week than totally disregard the story the next week or two than start showing again

[Ómar]

rick532, I agree with you 110%!!
They need to stop all the focus on them. But the sad part is that in many of the posts I've read on the Facebook page, a WHOLE LOT of the fans seem to like that dumb storyline. Or at least they are the ones that post a the most.

[Deleted]

yea i don't get it the story line is stupid and i swear if that was me talking to my parents like they do on the show i would be in the hospital in a coma right now but what can you do they are the stars of the show

[justinate]

I don't see Miranda in the funeral scenes so maybe there's a chance it's her. If only. I'd break out singing "Ding dong, the witch is dead!".

[Ómar]

justinate, I wish it was her too! But you know what they say, "evil doesn't die so easily". I mean, just look at Mauricio!! The hit he received when he fell down the stairs was just like a month ago (in the novela time-frame) and he was up and running the next day, then he was about to die, and he's pretty much back to normal already! I think it's time for Gonzalo to go on a shooting spree with only Miranda and Mauricio in a room with him.

A guy can only dream.

[mycatfox]

Apr 12, 2012 10:44:06 GMT -5 Ómar said:

justinate, I wish it was her too! But you know what they say, "evil doesn't die so easily". I mean, just look at Mauricio!! The hit he received when he fell down the stairs was just like a month ago (in the novela time-frame) and he was up and running the next day, then he was about to die, and he's pretty much back to normal already! I think it's time for Gonzalo to go on a shooting spree with only Miranda and Mauricio in a room with him.

A guy can only dream.

I think (and hope) you're right, Omar. By the way it was written, it's very hard to imagine a way out for this character other than death. Gonzalo has always been extremely toxic, and so far, he hasn't shown any sign yet that could make me think there's hope for his tormented soul. I know is very hard what I'm saying, but I don't think this psychopath can ever be redeemed

[justinate]

Yeah, even Max is showing hints of redemption. (Where is the porn story I was promised?!) But Gonz remains as evil as ever.

Omar, I just realized Carmen is attending the funeral, wearing black. I doubt she would be in mourning for the woman who violated her dear little son, so - alas! - I think Miranda is safe. I have to say the show has really lost its way with the Mau/Miranda story. I really thought they were trying to improve for the better by reducing their airtime and introducing consequences for their stupidity, but instead they are now feeding us a steady diet of M&M scenes, including inane fantasies of them having a child together, and trying to make us feel sorry for Miranda being beaten up in prison by the evil lesbian cellmate.

[Deleted]

Dangerous Relationships – Having seen Diego and Alejandro kissing, Hector is determined to ‘cure’ his son of his homosexuality by forcing him to spend more time with his girlfriend Nora as well as undergoing reparative therapy. Diego pleads with his father to understand, but Hector isn’t listening, insisting that Diego will be divested of his gay desires. But Diego might have another worry. Hector wants Alejandro to stay away from his son. But how far will Hector go to see that it happens? And out of desperation, will Diego commit a reckless act to avoid what his father wants him to do?

[Ómar]

So I found some introductions to the characters on Relaciones Peligrosas. It seems it was posted on January, but it doesn't say if it was updated or not. It's go some interested stuff that did happen and somethings that MIGHT happen. Also some random facts that haven't been told yet. With the retooling I don't know how much of it will actually be shown. Well I'll translate some of the stories here. I also don't know how much of this is true.

SPANISH

DIEGO BARÓN
.... terminará teniendo una relación duradera y estable con Alejandro....Cuando sale del closet, con Alejandro comienzan a vivir una historia de amor a escondidas primero, a petición de él, hasta que todo se descubre y tienen que abrirse delante de los compañeros. Pero las cosas se complican cuando Diego se da cuenta que le gustan las mujeres y descubre la palabra bisexual. Tendrá que luchar de la mano de su pareja, contra la guerra que orquestan sus propios padres para separarlos.

MARIO PORTILLO
Padre de Alejandro. Maduro, profesional, decidió junto a su esposa adoptar a Alejandro cuando ya eran mayores.

ALEJANDRO PORTILLO
Su historia tendrá un giro inesperado cuando conozca a Diego Barón... Vivirán una historia de amor tormentosa donde los padres de Diego le harán la vida imposible porque lo acusan de haber convertido sexualmente a su hijo.

LEONARDO MÁXIMO
Los abusos físicos y verbales del padre de Maximo se hacen cada vez mayores. En la escuela, los maestros se dan cuenta de esta situación y hablan con el padre de Máximo que les dice que es el hijo el abusador. La verdad se revela poco a poco. Máximo termina trabajando en lo que sea para ayudar a su madre a solventar su situación económica. Se ve envuelto en un mundo de pornografía online. A Máximo, las circunstancias de la vida lo obligan de pasar a ser de niño a hombre de la noche a la mañana.

ELIZABETH GÓMEZ QUINTANA
La relación de Olga y Elizabeth, más que de madre e hija, es de rivales que compiten por ver quién luce mejor... Elizabeth crece en su propio mundo, con la soledad como compañera. Su madre siempre está demasiado ocupada en sí misma. Su padre la ve como una bebita. Así, ella ha escogido un camino de “suicidio por cuotas”; buscándose relaciones de abuso y humillación que la minimizan y la anulan. Ella tiene tendencias autodestructivas y suicidas, y termina cayendo en desórdenes alimenticios graves... Luego caerá en las manos de Gonzalo, el abusador del colegio. Él la manipula y la humilla. Hasta que Leo Máximo comienza a enamorarse de ella. Este muchacho educado y de buena familia es quien salva a Elizabeth de las manos de Gonzalo, generando así el conflicto de dos buenos amigos enamorados de una misma mujer. (En la descripción de Teresa, se dice que los padres de Eli mueren en un accidente automibilistico y esta aprenderá a ser madre mientras cuida de Eli)

ENGLISH

DIEGO BARÓN
...He will end up having a long lasting and stable relationship with Alejandro. When he comes out of the closet, with Alejandro they start living a love story in secret at first, at his request, until everything is discovered and they have to open up in front of their class mates. But things get complicated when Diego realizes he likes women and he discovers the word "Bisexual". He will have to fight along side partner against the war his own parents organize to separate them.

MARIO PORTILLO
Alejandro father. Mature/old, professional, he decided along with his wife to adopt Alejandro when they were already at an old age.

ALEJANDRO PORTILLO
His story will have an unexpected twist when he meets Diego Barón... He will live a rocky love story where Diego's parents will make his live impossible because they blame him for having sexually converted their son.

LEONARDO MÁXIMO
The physical and verbal abuse of Máximo's dad grow bigger each time. AT school, the teacher notice the situation and they talk with Máximo's father who tells them his son is the abuser. The truth comes out little by little. Máximo ends up working in whatever to help his mother settle her economical situation. He finds himself involved in the online pornography world. The circumstances make Máximo go from a child to a man in a blink of an eye.

ELIZABETH GÓMEZ QUINTANA
The relationship between Olga and Elizabeth is more of rivals that compete to see who looks the best than that of mother and daughter... Elizabeth grow up in her own world, with loneliness as her company. Her mother is always occupied on herself. Her father looks at her as a child. And by that, she has decided on a path of "Suicide by payments", looking for relationships of abuse and humiliation that minimize and destroy her. She has self-destructful and suicidal tendencies, and ends up falling in dangerous digestive disorders... She will then fall in Gonzalo's hands, the school's bully. He manipulate and humiliates her. Up until Leo Máximo starts falling for her. This educated guy and from a good family is who saves Elizabeth from Gonzalo's hands, generating the conflict of two good friends in love with the same woman. (In Teresa's description it is said that Eli's parents will die in a car accidents and Teresa will learn ro be a mother by taking care of Eli)

[Deleted]

Who knows now if that's still what it is because there is not even any talk of Diego's mother or any picture you see is him and his father so who knows what is going to happen

[Deleted]

if they didn't do the story line basically all chopped and focusing on another story line way too much people wouldn't be complaining at all and in all honesty the main story makes no sense and half the shit that happens especially the way they talk to the parents i would of got my ass whipped

[Ómar]

Why are y'all angry about it? Don't forget this is "based on" and not a "remake of" FoQ. Why compare both?? They were supposed to be different from the start (yeah, I don't like the super couple, but I like the rest of the cast) but things will hopefully change. Kevin and Nora in their twicams said things will be coming up. There are still sixty more episodes left. So maybe in those we'll see things change. It's not like novelas jump days or weeks in every episode like how it's done in TV series.

I mean, If you want something like FoQ, then watch that storyline AGIAN!!!! Or maybe the Russian REMAKE. But if you're okay with something different, then keep on with RP. Just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean everyone else don't like it either. I know people that love it, and that's because they are the target audience. Why does everyone outside the target audience whine and get angry??? I don't understand this. If I know the movie, soap, play/theatre, show, TV series isn't something I like, I'll say it and make it clear but I will not mention it again and not watch it because I don't like it. So why do people that don't like it continue on watching?

[Deleted]

i like the show it's just bad that 1 story line is the main focus of the show and a lot of the other ones are chopped and screwed especially Alejandro and Diego and nobody or at least i wasn't comparing it to the other show because i wouldn't want to watch basically the same story just with different people

[HQ75]

Omar has a right to express his frustration about people complaining all the time about a show he has taken the time to post online.
That's not "creating hostility".
It takes a lot of work to edit and sub and upload these shows and if all anyone does is complain about the content it gets tiring.
No one here can do anything about the content.

Omar can't control whether or not Ale and Diego get more screen time so maybe the complaints about content should be made to the people who can.

Everyone always says "it's just my opinion" but when you share that opinion in a public forum, you are opening yourself up to being criticized and argued with. That is the point of a public forum, discourse.

I wish folks who try to just accept that this show isn't what they expected and probably won't ever be and either decide to embrace it for what it is or ignore it.

It feels like folks spend more time complaining about what the show isn't doing and how it's not like FAQ than just talking about what it is and what's actually happening in the storyline.

[kevvoi]

Excellent post HQ75.

[ferdavid]

"He will end up having a long lasting and stable relationship with Alejandro. When he comes out of the closet, with Alejandro they start living a love story in secret at first, at his request, until everything is discovered and they have to open up in front of their class mates."

-->caaaaan't wait to see it. they will probably finally get toghete..amaziiiiiiiing. hope, it lasts for ever..like fer&david (until fer died )

"But things get complicated when Diego realizes he likes women and he discovers the word "Bisexual"."

-->ou nooooooo :/.......................why can't he only like alejandro hahahaha. who will it be??

[josean06]

I give up, you don't have to worry about my posting anymore.

I'll continue to watch the videos that Omar and Anthony posts because I do want to watch Diego and Ale, and I'm grateful for of all their hard work. My posts have been deleted.

[Hawthorne]

Apr 27, 2012 9:54:56 GMT -5 HQ75 said:

Omar has a right to express his frustration about people complaining all the time about a show he has taken the time to post online.
That's not "creating hostility".
It takes a lot of work to edit and sub and upload these shows and if all anyone does is complain about the content it gets tiring.
No one here can do anything about the content.

Omar can't control whether or not Ale and Diego get more screen time so maybe the complaints about content should be made to the people who can.

Everyone always says "it's just my opinion" but when you share that opinion in a public forum, you are opening yourself up to being criticized and argued with. That is the point of a public forum, discourse.

I wish folks who try to just accept that this show isn't what they expected and probably won't ever be and either decide to embrace it for what it is or ignore it.

It feels like folks spend more time complaining about what the show isn't doing and how it's not like FAQ than just talking about what it is and what's actually happening in the storyline.

RP has been enormously frustrating and, frankly, insulting to fans of the gay story line. The show/network warrants criticism and this is certainly the place for it. Why people continue to watch if it frustrates them is their business. Telling them to basically shut up or go away if they don't like it is very condescending.

No, Omar can't control whether or not Ale and Diego get more screen time, but the complaints aren't directed at him. Subbing and posting episodes is very much appreciated, but if it causes you to take criticism of the show personally and to cause a fracas on the board because someone said something negative about the show, then perhaps you shouldn't do it.