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Post by bel7003 on Nov 12, 2011 10:29:01 GMT -5
Those guys sure are stubborn and Olli should know that a bandaid doesn't help heal a wound. That's what he's been doing since they first broke up and it hasn't done any good. R is just like T. He's willing and Olli is deperate. The end result will be the same. The best thing about a bandaid is that after you don't need it anymore you just toss it into the garbage. ;D
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Post by silviam11 on Nov 12, 2011 10:31:27 GMT -5
Those guys sure are stubborn and Olli should know that a bandaid doesn't help heal a wound. That's what he's been doing since they first broke up and it hasn't done any good. R is just like T. He's willing and Olli is deperate. The end result will be the same. The best thing about a bandaid is that after you don't need it anymore you just toss it into the garbage. ;D Bel, my dear! I just love your sense of humor! ;D
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Post by dalphine on Nov 12, 2011 10:33:12 GMT -5
I glad Rafael know what the deal is. I'm glad they didn't make him stupid or that Olli was using him.
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Post by Trish on Nov 12, 2011 10:37:57 GMT -5
Those guys sure are stubborn and Olli should know that a bandaid doesn't help heal a wound. That's what he's been doing since they first broke up and it hasn't done any good. R is just like T. He's willing and Olli is deperate. The end result will be the same. The best thing about a bandaid is that after you don't need it anymore you just toss it into the garbage. ;D I like that Bel. In the end, R will just be tossed aside.
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Post by Trish on Nov 12, 2011 10:40:42 GMT -5
I glad Rafael know what the deal is. I'm glad they didn't make him stupid or that Olli was using him. I didn't think that R would be stupid. You don't come call that way without some kind of agenda. My concern, is and still is Olli. Chris knew exactly what he was doing with Chris. Olli knows that he loves Chris, but using R to fill that void that Chris has left, can't be good. I'm hoping that he continues to let R know that this is just for fun and a way to ease the pain and nothing more.
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Post by mitsaso on Nov 12, 2011 10:56:39 GMT -5
Hahaha the new episode is so funny! I'm loving Jessica as a chrollifan. The mere idea of Christian crying and sniffling with Jessica there to pep talk him is hilarious, but her line "yes your eyes are just sweating" and her frustration at the two men's inability to do something so simple as walk up to each other and just say "I want you" totally mirrors the frustration of the fans. VL is doing the classic bait and switch here, using every cliche and misunderstanding in their arsenal to keep them apart for just a little bit more, and it's actually working!! ;D They even went all meta on it, with Andi and Jessica making fun of the whole cliched melodrama going on with the boys, and that really helps. The only thing I dont like is how Rafael just stands around being a doofus. What made him change his mind and go after Olli again? He wasn't all that excited the last time, or else he wouldnt have left him at the beach. And him just staying around when Olli obviously has feelings for his ex, how desperate is he? At least we knew Theresa simply didn't care about Christian's feelings, so it wasn't a matter of pride. If I were Rafael though, I'd either leave with my head looking up in pride, or just be a sleazeball and try to bang them both. But I wouldn't hope for Olli to fall for me. Look at the very end; he had to get Olli drunk to bag him, and Olli even told him that he still loves Christian. lolol BTW kudos to Hagen! He had to team up with Andi and get Christian to realize what he hadnt realized in all these months; he just needs to make one more simple move to get his husband back. As long as its not too late
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Post by Trish on Nov 12, 2011 11:07:54 GMT -5
Hahaha the new episode is so funny! I'm loving Jessica as a chrollifan. The mere idea of Christian crying and sniffling with Jessica there to pep talk him is hilarious, but her line "yes your eyes are just sweating" and her frustration at the two men's inability to do something so simple as walk up to each other and just say "I want you" totally mirrors the frustration of the fans. VL is doing the classic bait and switch here, using every cliche and misunderstanding in their arsenal to keep them apart for just a little bit more, and it's actually working!! ;D They even went all meta on it, with Andi and Jessica making fun of the whole cliched melodrama going on with the boys, and that really helps. The only thing I dont like is how Rafael just stands around being a doofus. What made him change his mind and go after Olli again? He wasn't all that excited the last time, or else he wouldnt have left him at the beach. And him just staying around when Olli obviously has feelings for his ex, how desperate is he? At least we knew Theresa simply didn't care about Christian's feelings, so it wasn't a matter of pride. If I were Rafael though, I'd either leave with my head looking up in pride, or just be a sleazeball and try to bang them both. But I wouldn't hope for Olli to fall for me. Look at the very end; he had to get Olli drunk to bag him, and Olli even told him that he still loves Christian. lolol BTW kudos to Hagen! He had to team up with Andi and get Christian to realize what he hadnt realized in all these months; he just needs to make one more simple move to get his husband back. As long as its not too late I don't think that R is hanging around wanting Olli to like him. I thnk he likes the idea of banging a model and all the things that go along with it. He wasn't that excited about him Majorca, but imagine opening a magazine and realizing the guy that you banged and mysteriously disappeared was some big time model. If nothing else, maybe he might want to keep the little encounter a secret. What harm does it do to look him up. Then you find out that he's all confused about his ex. This could work out even better than hoped. He's no doofus. He's wiser than his years.
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Post by bel7003 on Nov 12, 2011 11:10:00 GMT -5
If I were Rafael though, I'd either leave with my head looking up in pride, or just be a sleazeball and try to bang them both. I would looove to see Rafa trying to bang Christian. ;D ;D Judging from the way he looked at Rafa when he put his hand on Chris' shoulder... It would be worst than a dog/cat fight... Kssss! ;D ;D
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Post by bel7003 on Nov 12, 2011 11:10:17 GMT -5
The best thing about a bandaid is that after you don't need it anymore you just toss it into the garbage. ;D Bel, my dear! I just love your sense of humor! ;D
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Post by bel7003 on Nov 12, 2011 11:12:41 GMT -5
I glad Rafael know what the deal is. I'm glad they didn't make him stupid or that Olli was using him. I didn't think that R would be stupid. You don't come call that way without some kind of agenda. My concern, is and still is Olli. Chris knew exactly what he was doing with Chris. Olli knows that he loves Chris, but using R to fill that void that Chris has left, can't be good. I'm hoping that he continues to let R know that this is just for fun and a way to ease the pain and nothing more. I don't trust Rafa one bit. There's something very strange in what motivated him to go look for Olli and in his attitude regarding Olli's feelings towards Christian.
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Post by Trish on Nov 12, 2011 11:31:52 GMT -5
I didn't think that R would be stupid. You don't come call that way without some kind of agenda. My concern, is and still is Olli. Chris knew exactly what he was doing with Chris. Olli knows that he loves Chris, but using R to fill that void that Chris has left, can't be good. I'm hoping that he continues to let R know that this is just for fun and a way to ease the pain and nothing more. I don't trust Rafa one bit. There's something very strange in what motivated him to go look for Olli and in his attitude regarding Olli's feelings towards Christian. Oh definitely. He's not there to be a friend. You confused about your ex? Then lets screw and you can just forget about him. Very T like. As I said, you find out that some mysterious guy you were with is a "famous" model and of course Olli doesn't question that and now if someone where to bring up that he showed up with ad in hand maybe trying to lay a famous model. Oli would become upset and think that they are just jealous and think that he couldn't get a guy on his own, when that was a major part of him becoming a model in the first place. Remember the guy in NL, that J snagged?
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Post by bel7003 on Nov 12, 2011 11:44:51 GMT -5
I don't trust Rafa one bit. There's something very strange in what motivated him to go look for Olli and in his attitude regarding Olli's feelings towards Christian. Oh definitely. He's not there to be a friend. You confused about your ex? Then lets screw and you can just forget about him. Very T like. As I said, you find out that some mysterious guy you were with is a "famous" model and of course Olli doesn't question that and now if someone where to bring up that he showed up with ad in hand maybe trying to lay a famous model. Oli would become upset and think that they are just jealous and think that he couldn't get a guy on his own, when that was a major part of him becoming a model in the first place. Remember the guy in NL, that J snagged? Yes, I remember. I hated that scene. Olli deserves better. And I think Rafa is not only interested in sleeping with a famous model. Somehow, all his understanding and wisdom (he's 18, let's not forget) makes me think he's used to dealing with older men facing a crisis. He comes across as the older, more experienced one, giving advice to an insecure teenager. I don't like this role-reversal.
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Post by phoenix-feather on Nov 12, 2011 12:05:22 GMT -5
I just have trouble convincing myself that Rafael is supposed to be 18........ Casting dept. really screwed up over there.... I find Marc Phillip cute though, I don't have to avert my gaze from the screen every time he's on
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Post by Trish on Nov 12, 2011 12:46:41 GMT -5
I just have trouble convincing myself that Rafael is supposed to be 18........ Casting dept. really screwed up over there.... I find Marc Phillip cute though, I don't have to avert my gaze from the screen every time he's on He's okay. I agree that he looks older and that's probably why he has little trouble attracting older guys. Olli was even taken aback by the fact that he was only 18. I also think that his experience is greater than his years. He had no problem flirting with and obviously older Olli. Now that I thnk about it, maybe Tobi was suppose to show how most teens would react to an older guy, while R finds it more of a challenge. I don't think R will be "bad", but he definitely has an agenda. The way he was acting with Jessica and at the club, certainly shows that. I just don't want Olli to look like a fool. Buying into R lines and smooth talk, because his ego once again needs a boost. People picked on Chris when he was with T, but he knew exactly what he wanted from the "relationship" and there was never any doubt that it was only about the sex and no feelings were ever involved.
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Post by philos on Nov 12, 2011 13:12:56 GMT -5
I glad Rafael know what the deal is. I'm glad they didn't make him stupid or that Olli was using him. In fact, Olli is using him to forget Chris, but IMO it's more Rafa using Olli to have what he wants.
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Post by Trish on Nov 12, 2011 14:40:27 GMT -5
I agree. They are both using each other. It will be interesting to see who gets tripped up first.
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Post by Nasos29 on Nov 12, 2011 15:27:11 GMT -5
Did anyone notice how symbolic Hagen's words were while Christian had his flashback?He talks about Chrolli's house,its foundation,how it evolved and how it should go from now on
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Post by Trish on Nov 12, 2011 15:57:01 GMT -5
Yes, we did.
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Post by bkoz on Nov 12, 2011 16:08:05 GMT -5
OKay I'm late. But I have nothing to add, that everybody has already said. This epi was so good. Thore and Jo were excellent. And I even liked Jessica and Andi. And I never thought I would say this, but I even liked Hagen.
Thank you MM and Joanna.
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Post by silviam11 on Nov 12, 2011 16:11:31 GMT -5
I don't think R will be "bad", but he definitely has an agenda. The way he was acting with Jessica and at the club, certainly shows that. I just don't want Olli to look like a fool. Buying into R lines and smooth talk, because his ego once again needs a boost. People picked on Chris when he was with T, but he knew exactly what he wanted from the "relationship" and there was never any doubt that it was only about the sex and no feelings were ever involved. That's what I think, too. He doesn't seem to be a bad guy, but he knows what he's doing, maybe better than Olli . I also think that both are using each other in some way. Let's see who will take more advantage of the situation. As for C/T, I never saw any kind of feelings between them either, just sex, and both knew exactely what they wanted and how far they would go.
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Post by Trish on Nov 12, 2011 16:43:20 GMT -5
I don't think R will be "bad", but he definitely has an agenda. The way he was acting with Jessica and at the club, certainly shows that. I just don't want Olli to look like a fool. Buying into R lines and smooth talk, because his ego once again needs a boost. People picked on Chris when he was with T, but he knew exactly what he wanted from the "relationship" and there was never any doubt that it was only about the sex and no feelings were ever involved. That's what I think, too. He doesn't seem to be a bad guy, but he knows what he's doing, maybe better than Olli . I also think that both are using each other in some way. Let's see who will take more advantage of the situation. As for C/T, I never saw any kind of feelings between them either, just sex, and both knew exactely what they wanted and how far they would go. Exactly. Chris was T's trainer and a way to blow off steam. At the end, she thought that might help with her getting the jockette job, but it didn't. Hopefully, R is just looking for a Sugar Daddy. He probably noticed that the pic that Olli took was in Majorca, not knowing that he wasn't a model when he was there before and figured, hitching on to him, he could maybe do some traveling or hang out at some cool parties. We know very little about R really. He knows Timo and Emillo from school and I guess he's graduated, but Emilo seems to be without parents, so I guess they aren't necessary in Majorca, but it does make you wonder, how they feel about their kid up and deciding to go to Germany.
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Post by angelarose on Nov 12, 2011 17:49:16 GMT -5
Everybody has pretty much said everything that needed to be said about this episode, but I'll jump in anyway. I thought I was annoyed at Andi for blabbing to Olli about Christian getting the job in Brandenburg, but after seeing it with the subs it's obvious that he was just trying to get Olli to realize that Christian could be leaving forever and it may be his last chance to finally speak up, tell him how he feels, and get him to stay. Of course Olli took it all wrong and instead basically told Christian to go. I actually really liked Andi in this episode; what he told Olli when he was crying in NL about them always assuming what the other one thinks and feels when really they are in the dark, and that they need to talk to one another is completely true. I loved the stable scene with Andi and Hagen using Christian and Olli's house as a metaphor for their relationship to get Christian to realize he needs to go get Olli back. All the stuff about it having weak spots but it's substantially built and it would be stupid to let it fall apart because of some difficulties, was perfect. I'm still amazed that Andi and Hagen came up with that one. Christian's flashbacks superimposed with their words as he's realizing what he needs to do was really moving. Determined Christian with the "I'm getting my husband back" declaration was great, but agonizing knowing what Olli was doing at the same time. The crying scenes from both were incredibly sad, and Christian's was especially heartbreaking. Thore was awesome in that scene. Two brokenhearted boys who are too stubborn to just say how they really feel. As much as it pains me to say this, Jessica was actually accurate with the things she was saying to Christian. And then the ending... Oh, and I too loved Christian drop kicking Rafael's (who I still don't like, by the way) bag out of the flat.
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Post by sonia38 on Nov 12, 2011 17:57:06 GMT -5
What I noticed is that Rafael just waltzed his way into Olli's apartment while he was talking to Christian like he has some sort of privilege, if I was Olli I would have told him to leave but no, Christian left instead and now Rafael wants to know what's going on, like Olli promised him some sort of future. He's a slick one all right, even after Olli tells him he loves Christian he's still hanging around maybe thinking that sex can change Olli's mind about him.
And for two men who have known each other for more than three years and have been in love most of that time and even married, it's a damn shame to see how scared they are to approach each other with that's going on inside of them.
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Post by bel7003 on Nov 12, 2011 17:58:05 GMT -5
Everybody has pretty much said everything that needed to be said about this episode, but I'll jump in anyway. I thought I was annoyed at Andi for blabbing to Olli about Christian getting the job in Brandenburg, but after seeing it with the subs it's obvious that he was just trying to get Olli to realize that Christian could be leaving forever and it may be his last chance to finally speak up, tell him how he feels, and get him to stay. Of course Olli took it all wrong and instead basically told Christian to go. I actually really liked Andi in this episode; what he told Olli when he was crying in NL about them always assuming what the other one thinks and feels when really they are in the dark, and that they need to talk to one another is completely true. I loved the stable scene with Andi and Hagen using Christian and Olli's house as a metaphor for their relationship to get Christian to realize he needs to go get Olli back. All the stuff about it having weak spots but it's substantially built and it would be stupid to let it fall apart because of some difficulties, was perfect. I'm still amazed that Andi and Hagen came up with that one. Christian's flashbacks superimposed with their words as he's realizing what he needs to do was really moving. Determined Christian with the "I'm getting my husband back" declaration was great, but agonizing knowing what Olli was doing at the same time. The crying scenes from both were incredibly sad, and Christian's was especially heartbreaking. Thore was awesome in that scene. Two brokenhearted boys who are too stubborn to just say how they really feel. As much as it pains me to say this, Jessica was actually accurate with the things she was saying to Christian. And then the ending... Oh, and I too loved Christian drop kicking Rafael's (who I still don't like, by the way) bag out of the flat. Spot on, Angela.
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Post by Trish on Nov 12, 2011 18:14:42 GMT -5
What I noticed is that Rafael just waltzed his way into Olli's apartment while he was talking to Christian like he has some sort of privilege, if I was Olli I would have told him to leave but no, Christian left instead and now Rafael wants to know what's going on, like Olli promised him some sort of future. He's a slick one all right, even after Olli tells him he loves Christian he's still hanging around maybe thinking that sex can change Olli's mind about him. And for two men who have known each other for more than three years and have been in love most of that time and even married, it's a damn shame to see how scared they are to approach each other with that's going on inside of them. You are so right sonia. R did act like Olli owed him something. At least Olli told him that him being there was his choice. And about them being scare do to approach each other. If you think that you've lost the other person anyway, what do you have to lose. I guess they don't want to look like a fool. Get over it guys, that's what being in love is. You it makes you a fool.
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