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Post by blaykee on Sept 19, 2011 16:00:48 GMT -5
Did the door shrink because Christian is just about to hit his head on the frame. and he looked so cute when Marlena opened the door! Doors usually are 2m and Thore is 1.90 or 1.94, so he must take care of... And yes, he's so cute! Yikes Metrics!! *runs like a scared american* so 6 centimeters from the top is the only difference? *does conversion* (2.5 inches) not that much. Thanks for the info!
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Post by blaykee on Sept 19, 2011 16:02:50 GMT -5
maybe would be better no "Chrolli" scene than this nonsense in today's episode. these indifferent quasi-friends Christian and Olli playing kicker (moreover with Jessica ) is something so stupid !!!! they have nothing to do with Chrolli I agree (while I enjoyed seeing them) it doesn't makes sense. And are we supposed to make the story up in our heads how this came to be so lighthearted? so nonchalantly playing a game together like this is normal?
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Post by MercuryMay on Sept 19, 2011 16:11:22 GMT -5
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Post by jos87 on Sept 19, 2011 16:12:54 GMT -5
Thanks Joanna for the caps Thore is so cute! However,like many others,i don't find a sense in the NL's scene. Only the writers can find a sense in it;i'm happy when i see them together but not in this nonsense-way Edit:thank you Mercury for the video. From the emoticones you used,i understand that you too don't find a sense in this scenes;or maybe i'm wrong
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Post by philos on Sept 19, 2011 16:16:08 GMT -5
Doors usually are 2m and Thore is 1.90 or 1.94, so he must take care of... And yes, he's so cute! Yikes Metrics!! *runs like a scared american* so 6 centimeters from the top is the only difference? *does conversion* (2.5 inches) not that much. Thanks for the info! In fact ,I'm always surprised how different are the houses in Italy and Germany; normally in Italy the ceiling is high at least 2.7m (better 3m or more), instead of the 2.4 in Germany; and Germans are usually taller than Italians! I think it's caused by the weather (hot in Italy, cold in Germany), but it's strange to see these tallest men living in so lowest houses...
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Post by blaykee on Sept 19, 2011 16:20:53 GMT -5
THanks MM, and thanks for adding in the background conversation. I'm confused why Olli called Marlena "lily" is that her nickname? philos Interesting about the doors. i will admit I have no idea how tall they are here but I would bet much taller than 2m since many people are as tall or taller than Thore. ALthough I do remember a friend who was 6'7" always ducking through doors.
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Post by joanna on Sept 19, 2011 16:25:31 GMT -5
I'm confused why Olli called Marlena "lily" is that her nickname? Marlene plays Lily Rose in the musical 'The Lost Love of Lily Rose'.
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Post by bkoz on Sept 19, 2011 16:28:10 GMT -5
Thank you Joanna for the caps and MM for the vid and translations.
Andi made me laugh when he saw Christian at the door, he was so happy to see him cause I think he wanted to get away from Marlene. While I'm glad that Christian and Olli were in a scene together without fighting, it didn't make sense in the context of what's been going on. And thanks MM for translating the background when Dana and Andi wrere talking.
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Post by silviam11 on Sept 19, 2011 16:29:40 GMT -5
Thank you, girls for the caps, video and translation!
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Post by blaykee on Sept 19, 2011 16:34:25 GMT -5
I'm confused why Olli called Marlena "lily" is that her nickname? Marlene plays Lily Rose in the musical 'The Lost Love of Lily Rose'. oh yes (duh!) thanks. eta: had I read MM's description I would have known that too. Funny comments from MM today lol
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Post by Trish on Sept 19, 2011 16:46:55 GMT -5
Thanks MM
The scene in NL was strange, but from the bickering between Olli/Jess, Olli didn't want to play. Andi and Chris were going to play and Miri was suppose to join in. Andi probably asked Jess to join in as a fourth. Then when he left Jess bugged Olli to be her partner, which it seemed like she regretted and was trying to get Andi to play again. In the caps there is the one pic where Chris looks at Olli, while Ollii is snarling back at him. He is obviously still not very happy with Chris. Him being all buddy buddy with Miri probably doesn't help his mood.
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Post by elliot on Sept 19, 2011 17:41:12 GMT -5
Thanks Joanna and MM
So while we get Dana boringly going on about the equally boring Hagen for the umpteenth time Chrolli whose marriage is has been in limbo for months and who haven't been able to speak to one another without ripping into each other inexplicably and without any explanation forget their issues in order to engage in a game of foosball with JESSICA.
I'm starting to think the writers are existing in some parallel universe because where even in soap world would this make a lick of sense?
The strange sound you may be hearing right now is me grinding my teeth in frustration.
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Post by pru on Sept 19, 2011 17:46:38 GMT -5
Lawd, save me from the lameness.
I hate random scenes that really don't make any sense.
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Post by sonia38 on Sept 19, 2011 18:10:37 GMT -5
Thanks MM for the vid and Joanna for the caps. It's good to see Christian and Olli in the same scene even if the entire think made no sense and just left me scratching my head but Olli did look good in that rea shirt.
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Post by bero on Sept 19, 2011 18:21:10 GMT -5
you know what? I bet there was a scene that would explain this weird situation but due to a major direction error that was only discovered in the final editing process, the show decided to take out that key scene and keep this cut-of-its-context scene.
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Post by silviam11 on Sept 19, 2011 18:24:48 GMT -5
you know what? I bet there was a scene that would explain this weird situation but due to a major direction error that was only discovered in the final editing process, the show decided to take out that key scene and keep this cut-of-its-context scene. Yep! That would be a good reason ;D Maybe they find the lost scene and decide to place it randomly any time next week. ;D
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Post by boszz on Sept 19, 2011 18:47:44 GMT -5
I dont know if i'm the only one who cant stand current st. For one after Christian humiliating and making fun of Oliver, saying that Oliver doesnt understand him and there's no hope for him then seeing Christian with Theresa in front of his house just after he cheated on Oliver with Christian knowing about Oli's insecurities and fears I feel its almost insulting for me as a viewer its like they want to suddenly forget and pretend all this never happened, maybe its me or maybe i just dont get this soap any more but i cant see even one thing that's making sense in their behaviour. IMO writers somehow lost the main conception and didnt know how to make it believable so they're forcing this pitiful story when all get brainwashed and forget what happened during this past months The way they got rid of Theresa and making her somehow evil just to have some excuse to stop Christian and her from sleeping together is kind of funny considering that they're trying to make Diana some kind of person you're supposted to root for but it doesnt work for me somehow I'd rather see Theresa who before going for Christian asked him if he's free or not.
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Post by angelarose on Sept 19, 2011 18:51:11 GMT -5
Thanks Joanna for the caps, and May for the video. It's great to see the guys, and in a scene together, but...huh??
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Post by bero on Sept 19, 2011 21:25:41 GMT -5
I dont know if i'm the only one who cant stand current st. For one after Christian humiliating and making fun of Oliver, saying that Oliver doesnt understand him and there's no hope for him then seeing Christian with Theresa in front of his house just after he cheated on Oliver with Christian knowing about Oli's insecurities and fears I feel its almost insulting for me as a viewer its like they want to suddenly forget and pretend all this never happened, maybe its me or maybe i just dont get this soap any more but i cant see even one thing that's making sense in their behaviour. IMO writers somehow lost the main conception and didnt know how to make it believable so they're forcing this pitiful story when all get brainwashed and forget what happened during this past months The way they got rid of Theresa and making her somehow evil just to have some excuse to stop Christian and her from sleeping together is kind of funny considering that they're trying to make Diana some king of person you're supposted to root for but it doesnt work for me somehow I'd rather see Theresa who before going for Christian asked him if he's free or not. the small scene was weird YES it kind of blew up the rising tension between Olli and Christian with a very stupid meaningless small scene. but I don't agree with you completely on what you said; for example I don't think making Theresa a evil has anything to do with being the solo factor or plot device to breaking up her relationship with Christian. one scene that comes to mind is were she was urging Christian to not give up and start a business together and when he tried to let it slide she called him on being an ex-boxer so he shouldn't give up .. so he, fed up, shoves her to the wall and tells her she knows nothing and that he had a heart condition. so if that scene was not a proof of his disgust with her while she was giving him some not-bad-suggestion .. then I believe you've given up on the story and am sorry to tell you if the latter is the case you wont enjoy the show ; it's an agreement between the viewer and the artist to fool and be fooled = to lie convincingly and for the other party to believe the lie wholeheartedly. + another point; and it's a matter of opinion, but I think the actress who plays Dana portrays her in a talented way that we're just drawn to her despite her poor judgment and her outrageous love affair with her brother in-law. when I look at Marlene I see that she was portrayed in a good way in terms of being moral.. and being generally a good person to appeal to the viewers e.g: her attempt to convince the group who came to assess the stud farm and then successfully retaining their approval to keep the stud farm,it shows that both characters were portrayed evenly, if not in favor of Marlene since Dana slept with Hagen so she's sort of an adulterer. again Diane (the actress who plays Dana) renders the viewers in favor of Dana. I mean with Christian and Olli Christian broke up with Coco but not after sleeping with Olli but after only kissing him. and still some people think of it as a douche move of Olli. so what can one say about what Dana did ? absolutely horrible am rambling off to sleep then, and thanks to both MM and Joanna
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2011 21:45:53 GMT -5
Lawd, save me from the lameness. I hate random scenes that really don't make any sense. LOL. Yeah, I got nothing. + another point; and it's a matter of opinion, but I think the actress who plays Dana portrays her in a talented way that we're just drawn to her despite her poor judgment and her outrageous love affair with her brother in-law. On that matter of opinion, I'm definitely an exception to this. The fact that it's all over Hagen certainly doesn't help either. Thanks for the clips.
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Post by pru on Sept 19, 2011 23:39:23 GMT -5
I dont know if i'm the only one who cant stand current st. For one after Christian humiliating and making fun of Oliver, saying that Oliver doesnt understand him and there's no hope for him then seeing Christian with Theresa in front of his house just after he cheated on Oliver with Christian knowing about Oli's insecurities and fears I feel its almost insulting for me as a viewer its like they want to suddenly forget and pretend all this never happened, maybe its me or maybe i just dont get this soap any more but i cant see even one thing that's making sense in their behaviour. IMO writers somehow lost the main conception and didnt know how to make it believable so they're forcing this pitiful story when all get brainwashed and forget what happened during this past months The way they got rid of Theresa and making her somehow evil just to have some excuse to stop Christian and her from sleeping together is kind of funny considering that they're trying to make Diana some kind of person you're supposted to root for but it doesnt work for me somehow I'd rather see Theresa who before going for Christian asked him if he's free or not. You hit the nail on the head, boszz. They are trying insult our intelligence as viewers in behaving as though the last five in a half months of bs didn't happen. Whatever they are trying to sell I'm not buying and my memory is long.
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Post by bel7003 on Sept 20, 2011 1:35:45 GMT -5
I, too, was puzzled by that scene at NoLimits, although, like I've said before, it's always good to see the boys together. Nonetheless, like bero said, it destroyed all the tension that had been building up since the break up and that lead us (me) to believe something would happen to break it all down between the two of them. That scene, yesterday, was kind of an anti-climax, if you know what I mean. So, I wonder, why have they done it? What was the purpose? They could have had Dana hiding and Andi lying in a different situation. (BTW, it looks like Andi's job now is to lie for the Wolf sisters. : Maybe they want to show us that off screen Christian and Olli have become more accepting of their situation; or that they are trying to hold back the frustration and the anger towards each other... Or maybe the writers are sadists who want to make us suffer and go insane, trying to figure out what's going on. ;D Thanks, Joanna and MM.
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Post by elliot on Sept 20, 2011 3:27:22 GMT -5
I shouldn't be surprised by a Chrolli scene like this. This SL has been heading this way for months. An SL like this one involving cheating and the break up of a long time relationship needs all kinds of scenes giving some insight into the characters feelings and motivations. But all we have had so far are endless two minute rows which reveal nothing and scenes of them getting it on with other people. Criminally there hasn't even been a scene where Christian broke it off with Theresa or Olli pondered what it might mean for the future when Christian declared he had no intention of divorcing him. We're just left to imagine that such scenes took place and the conclusions that might have been drawn, the same way we're being asked to conjure up a reason why, after all the rows and spite, they are suddenly happy to hang out with Jessica and play table football.
To add insult to injury, it's all happening alongside other pairings whose SLs are given far more time than they deserve. How many more times do we need to hear Dana moaning on about her great dilemma? As much as I've enjoyed watching Chrolli I can't help wondering why, if the programme makers have so little investment in the pairing, are they even bothering to continue it. If the answer is the international audience then they're doing nothing to hold onto us and everything to make us give up and turn away.
I actually feel sorry for the writers. I can't imagine how difficult it must be to try to make this SL work when you're being told by the script producers that it's so low down the pecking order that it doesn't deserve more than a few minutes every couple of weeks and that no explanations are necessary.
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Post by amk on Sept 20, 2011 3:48:48 GMT -5
To add insult to injury it's all happening alongside other pairings whose SLs are given far more time than they deserve. As much as I've enjoyed watching Chrolli I can't help wondering why if the programme makers have so little investment in the pairing are they even bothering to continue it. me too and as much as I love Chrolli, so I'm starting to think that the best solution for Chrolli, actors, and me !! would be if the authors would give them at least a little bit believable and well-written happyending and let them disappear into the sunset.
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Post by bel7003 on Sept 20, 2011 4:10:04 GMT -5
To add insult to injury it's all happening alongside other pairings whose SLs are given far more time than they deserve. As much as I've enjoyed watching Chrolli I can't help wondering why if the programme makers have so little investment in the pairing are they even bothering to continue it. me too and as much as I love Chrolli, so I'm starting to think that the best solution for Chrolli, actors, and me !! would be if the authors would give them at least a little bit believable and well-written happyending and let them disappear into the sunset. I don't want them disappearing into the sunset, although I understand people's frustration, because I feel the same. There are too many characters on this show, right now, and they all have their s/l. In the beginning of VL XL, I thought it would be good, but now I think it was a bad idea, because they can't write good material for all the characters and they have to keep some of them in the background, so they have time for the others. Look at Arno and Charlie. I thought something was going to happen to them during their Mallorca stay, but nothing: just support roles. I thought Tanja/Clarissa might be interesting, but watching paint dry seems to be more emotional. All things considered, what's happening to Chrolli is the same thing that's happening to other characters. Their time will, eventually, come and when that happens, I hope they write something better than what we've had so far.
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