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Post by talula on Apr 4, 2015 11:35:14 GMT -5
How about Sonny and Will make up and decide to leave town together to start over someplace new and then Paul can go find a new love, someone who will actually be free to love him back. I'm not feeling this Will so I don't mind if he left. Under no circumstances do I want to see Paul and Will together after how they started out. for me the best option would be recast , as much as i love Freddie and very upset to lose him in this role i don't want to lose Sonny too,of course it will not be the same Sonny as we used to love,but i don't see how they can make Will and Paul work as couple and i highly doubt they will bring for Paul another love interest if Will leaves too,we need more gays on daytime,i want all three characters to stick for long long term even if it needs the recasting
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Post by meaghan on Apr 4, 2015 17:32:21 GMT -5
I am SO bummed Freddie is leaving. Though that is selfish, because if he is leaving of his own accord and wants to do something else, he shouldn't feel obligated to stay, so I wish him well. But Sonny is my favorite soap opera character ever, and I can't say for sure until I'd see a recast, but I really think most of my admiration of Sonny comes straight from Freddie himself, so it's tough to know we're losing him and his beautiful smile. I'd almost welcome Sonny dying because depending on the scenario, it might give Freddie some really great material. But I have to be honest, I don't think I could stand to watch Guy Wilson try to be devastated over it. I'm sorry to those who may be fans, but IMO his lack of ability to play that emotion honestly and believably would kill the impact. I also am REALLY torn about him leaving town. Unless something just absolutely life-altering happens, I can't see the character of Sonny ever leaving Ari. He loves her so much. I don't want Sonny's last moments in Salem to tarnish his good name because he made the decision to separate himself from his daughter.
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Post by blake on Apr 4, 2015 18:47:21 GMT -5
I see them either recasting Sonny or having Will leave with Sonny.Paul is too good right now.Days can keep him and bring on a brand new romance for him.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Apr 4, 2015 20:07:17 GMT -5
The Sonny character can always be recast and how the show has been setting up the fallout between him and Will, I think it makes more sense, that Sonny just gets sick and tired of Will's BS and says that he needs more time away to "think" about things and their relationship. Especially since, Sonny's feelings for Paul are slowly coming out from what he thought was a closed part of his life.
Will was recast, so let's not think that Sonny couldn't also be recast.
FS has more important things to handle in his real life for the next couple of years.
The show wouldn't possibly be able to "work" around what FS has to do.
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Post by meaghan on Apr 4, 2015 21:45:28 GMT -5
The Sonny character can always be recast and how the show has been setting up the fallout between him and Will, I think it makes more sense, that Sonny just gets sick and tired of Will's BS and says that he needs more time away to "think" about things and their relationship. Especially since, Sonny's feelings for Paul are slowly coming out from what he thought was a closed part of his life. Will was recast, so let's not think that Sonny couldn't also be recast. FS has more important things to handle in his real life for the next couple of years. The show wouldn't possibly be able to "work" around what FS has to do. Huh?
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Post by harmonium on Apr 5, 2015 5:19:50 GMT -5
If they recast Sonny, that means the flashback wedding scene will need to be re-shot again (unless they decided to drop that scene altogether). LOL. And will that be a first supercouple where both characters are recasted?
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Post by anthonyl on Apr 5, 2015 6:14:13 GMT -5
If they recast Sonny, that means the flashback wedding scene will need to be re-shot again (unless they decided to drop that scene altogether). LOL. And will that be a first supercouple where both characters are recasted? No, plenty of times both halves of a super couple, which I don't feel Will and Sonny were on their best day, have been recasted, including on this show. Personally, I think Sonny dies. Best way to write him out, IMO.
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Post by carld2 on Apr 5, 2015 6:38:46 GMT -5
If they recast Sonny, that means the flashback wedding scene will need to be re-shot again (unless they decided to drop that scene altogether). LOL. And will that be a first supercouple where both characters are recasted? It's not as common as you might think, but it's happened. Generally it doesn't go well. The biggest exception would probably be Tom and Margo on As the World Turns, who were recast multiple times (Tom was recast about 10 times...), and were popular with three different sets of actors. On DAYS, the first supercouple where both halves were recast was Jack and Jennifer. Matthew Ashford was fired, a year or so later Mark Valley was hired. A year or so after that, Melissa Reeves departed abruptly under very controversial circumstances, and Stephanie Cameron replaced her. A few years later, Valley left, and Steve Wilder replaced him. Cameron and Wilder were so watered down and greeted with enough apathy by fans that the show wrote them out. This happened again about 7-8 years ago with Belle and Shawn - she, then he were recast when the actors left, and fans lost enough interest to where they were fired and written out, seemingly never to return.
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Post by teachgirl on Apr 5, 2015 9:55:07 GMT -5
I love Freddie Smith's portrayal of Sonny and I'm very sad that he's leaving. He endows what might have been a boring character with a sweetness and sincerity that I find really enjoyable. I hope he's successful at whatever he decides to do.
Even though I'm not sure I want to watch another actor play the role, I don't think I could bear to watch Sonny die. That, for me, would not be entertainment, no matter how much it affects the rest of the canvas or allows other performers to shine (Judi Evans and Wally Kurth would kill it, I'm sure, but I still don't want to see it.) I remember being sad for so long when they killed off the original Lucky on GH when Jonathan Jackson left, a character I loved just as much as Sonny (well, until they revealed he wasn't really dead, but that wasn't until a week later, LOL). Please no.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Apr 5, 2015 10:44:43 GMT -5
If they recast Sonny, that means the flashback wedding scene will need to be re-shot again (unless they decided to drop that scene altogether). LOL. And will that be a first supercouple where both characters are recasted? No, plenty of times both halves of a super couple, which I don't feel Will and Sonny were on their best day, have been recasted, including on this show.Personally, I think Sonny dies. Best way to write him out, IMO. All soaps have done recasting before, especially for US based soaps. Those recasts, may have not always been successful, but the characters have been recast.
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Post by harmonium on Apr 5, 2015 10:50:47 GMT -5
Thanks anthonyl and carld2 for the insights. So i guess a recast could potentially work. But personally, I would opt for the option of Sonny leaving town for good, so if Guy and Christopher remain as regulars they could potentially bring in another new gay character.
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Post by justinate on Apr 5, 2015 12:08:26 GMT -5
I'd be upset if Sonny is killed off. He's Justin and Adrienne's only biological child together (although they've adopted twins and Justin has another bio-son). I get that Justin/Adrienne aren't a supercouple in the same league as Lucas/Sami or John/Marlena, nor is Sonny as entrenched a legacy character as Will or Brady or Ciara, but if they really have to proceed with his death, then it should at least be a big-ticket moment. They're going to need a big stunt for the 50th anniversary ...
On a separate note, I recalled that they'd undone John's paternity again so that Brady and Theresa could knock boots. Otherwise they would have been kissing cousins. And so would Will and Paul! And if John's backstory as the illegitimate son of Stefano's father and Shawn Brady's sister had been allowed to stand, Paul would technically have been a DiMera, too. It's a bit of a shame really. Paul could have been a Brady/DiMera. Honestly he's so distantly related to Will (and so was Brady to Theresa) I can't see why it mattered.
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Post by meaghan on Apr 5, 2015 22:21:08 GMT -5
The Sonny character can always be recast and how the show has been setting up the fallout between him and Will, I think it makes more sense, that Sonny just gets sick and tired of Will's BS and says that he needs more time away to "think" about things and their relationship. Especially since, Sonny's feelings for Paul are slowly coming out from what he thought was a closed part of his life. Will was recast, so let's not think that Sonny couldn't also be recast. FS has more important things to handle in his real life for the next couple of years. The show wouldn't possibly be able to "work" around what FS has to do. Huh? I'm going to quote myself to clarify my "Huh?" For the record, even if I don't watch end up watching anymore, I do think a Sonny recast could work, and I hope they're at least considering it. Unlike what we got with Will, I'd rather have a break from the character first, though. Then bring him back with a new face. That aside, from what I understand, Freddie effectively gets nearly half the entire year off while filming at Days. Last year, there was something like 17 total weeks that the studio was dark - no filming at all for anyone. They got off a solid month in the summer. Not to mention the weekends, and the days he just wasn't on the call sheet, since he was probably not working 5 days a week regardless. So I don't think his probation (what Ohio calls Community Control), driving school, or high school speaking engagement requirements were intended to be so hard to adhere to that it would force him to quit his job for the duration of his sentence. I would think someone losing their gainful employment would have the opposite effect that the court would want. They'd expect someone with a regular 8-5 job to continue working and fulfill their sentence, and that's certainly more than Freddie worked. Maybe I'm completely off base, but logistically speaking, I just don't see why this would keep him from filming. Based on his sentence alone, if he wanted to stay (and they wanted to keep him), I think he could've.
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Post by HQ75 on Apr 6, 2015 21:40:09 GMT -5
Freddie Smith still has to earn a living (probation or not). Not sure what that has to do with Sonny or the character being recast. Also has there been any confirmation that Freddie is actually leaving or has left? It seems to be conjecture at this point.
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Post by anthonyl on Apr 7, 2015 0:25:05 GMT -5
It's been confirmed by several sources, though it seemed well known he wasn't going to resign long before that. Very few young actors stay past that 4 year deal they initially sign.
IMO, recasting is a bad idea. You'd be asking the audience to accept a triangle played by three relatively new actors, the newest one being the center of it all. That's too much.
Killing Sonny is the best way to go in terms of story and I think with the show saying Justin and Adrienne will have a big story this fall, is what they plan to do.
I know people are like, you can't kill him, but this show has killed off far more important characters than Sonny Kiriakis. Show survived and moved on. They will this time as well.
I like Sonny, but I'm totally not sentimental about these things.
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Post by jazz73 on Apr 7, 2015 2:01:32 GMT -5
I hope not. While for whatever reason Freddie is moving on, but the character of Sonny is just getting started . There are so many stories they could tell and many directions he could go. Not to mention the one he is currently in right now. While I don't like that he is leaving, I would prefer a recast than lose the character too.
I thought the storyline with Adrienne and Justin had to do with their relationship and not losing a child. Apparently Justin is involved in something and he said he was having an affair to cover it.
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Post by talula on Apr 7, 2015 2:31:03 GMT -5
It's been confirmed by several sources, though it seemed well known he wasn't going to resign long before that. Very few young actors stay past that 4 year deal they initially sign. IMO, recasting is a bad idea. You'd be asking the audience to accept a triangle played by three relatively new actors, the newest one being the center of it all. That's too much. Killing Sonny is the best way to go in terms of story and I think with the show saying Justin and Adrienne will have a big story this fall, is what they plan to do. I know people are like, you can't kill him, but this show has killed off far more important characters than Sonny Kiriakis. Show survived and moved on. They will this time as well. I like Sonny, but I'm totally not sentimental about these things. i don't know how killing off another gay character could be a good idea, especially on daytime, when we have just a few promoted gays on US daytime tv, i very doubt they will bring one or two new permanent gay characters for Paul and/or Will,it would mean they throw Will and Paul together or keep them loveless and sexless, both options are very bad,imo We need recast to continue with triangle, i don't see any problems having new actors,Chad and Ben are playing by new actors too and they both involved in love triangle. Why we should lose beloved (and important for storytelling ) gay character if actor decide to leave? i pray for recasting and wish Freddie all the best
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Post by anthonyl on Apr 7, 2015 2:45:07 GMT -5
Situations are very different.
Chad was off canvas for sometime before his recast and he was not involved with Abby until recently.
Ben was a new character recast shortly after he began.
Show can do what it wants. I just think it would be a mistake to put a newbie amid two other newbies, especially with at least three other new faces showing up this fall.
Again, I am totally unsentimental about these things nor am I a shipper who cares who winds up with whom. If the show must recast then like with Chad, send Sonny off for awhile and bring him back.
Or they could do like Nick where everyone thinks he's dead then the new Sonny shows up a few months down the line.
At any rate, we have no idea what the show will do. I just know what *I* would do if I were writing it.
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Post by talula on Apr 7, 2015 6:45:22 GMT -5
Situations are very different. Chad was off canvas for sometime before his recast and he was not involved with Abby until recently. Ben was a new character recast shortly after he began. Show can do what it wants. I just think it would be a mistake to put a newbie amid two other newbies, especially with at least three other new faces showing up this fall. Again, I am totally unsentimental about these things nor am I a shipper who cares who winds up with whom. If the show must recast then like with Chad, send Sonny off for awhile and bring him back. Or they could do like Nick where everyone thinks he's dead then the new Sonny shows up a few months down the line. At any rate, we have no idea what the show will do. I just know what *I* would do if I were writing it. yes situations are different,but i still don't see why killing off one of the few gay character that remain on daytime is better than do the recast and continue the story,yes Sonny' death would be very dramatic and give some meaty marital to many characters,but my main fear that after that gays will be put on the back burner or have loveless life,i just don't believe they will bring new gay from core family or at least long term gay character
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Post by Zathras on Apr 7, 2015 19:34:44 GMT -5
I just don't want them to actually kill off Sonny. I've seen too many characters die senseless deaths; I don't want to see another. Usually writers aren't good enough to make the fallout worthwhile.
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Post by Trish on Apr 8, 2015 23:09:42 GMT -5
It would be sad if they killed off Sonny. If they could recast Will and Chad, theres no reason they couldn't recast Sonny as well. I agree, that there should be a break before the new person starts. However, how long can the triangle go on? Eventually a choice would need to be made. Given the way that Days pairs unlikely people for the shock value of it all, I can see Will and Paul ending up together in their shared grief, if Sonny did die.
There had seemed to be something different about him recently. He seemed more happy and at ease. I wish Freddie all the best.
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Post by jjose712 on Apr 9, 2015 6:51:43 GMT -5
I just don't want them to actually kill off Sonny. I've seen too many characters die senseless deaths; I don't want to see another. Usually writers aren't good enough to make the fallout worthwhile. I agree. And that should be depressing (and frankly i don't want to watch a soap to be depressed). Even if they don't want to use Sonny, it's better to let the character live, because you never know when you are going to need or want to resurrect a character Death for shock value never work
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Post by talula on Apr 9, 2015 7:01:09 GMT -5
MIchael Fairman on twitter today @michaelfairman DAYS Freddie Smith Chats On His Daytime Emmy Nomination & If He’s Team WilSon or Team PaulSon! linkit's weird, but there is no words from Freddie about leaving, why keep it in secret if news already out
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Post by Pedris2 on Apr 10, 2015 4:37:23 GMT -5
Monday 13th April. Sonny tries to be there to support Paul. How Will takes this particular development, two words: not well!
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Post by talula on Apr 11, 2015 16:06:48 GMT -5
Spoilers from SC
Week of April 13
Both John and Paul remain disturbed by Tori's attempt to keep the truth from them
The truth of Paul's paternity disturbs the reconciliation progress between John and Marlena
Marlena attempts to make amends, but John isn't so sure he's ready to forgive her betrayal
John believes that Marlena put others' needs above his chance to be a father again
Paul needs Tori to explain everything about her time with his newfound father
A tormented Tori tells Paul about her time with John while in Salem, working with Stefano
Will remains tormented over Paul's presence, especially since Sonny is set on comforting Paul
Will's lies cause Sonny's trust in their relationship to further deteriorate
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