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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 18:48:58 GMT -5
I wonder what Sonny's secret is?
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Post by talula on Nov 24, 2014 19:01:55 GMT -5
I wonder what Sonny's secret is? maybe it has something with Wednesday when "Sonny gets a huge shock!", sees his ex lover Paul?
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Post by jijiang1987 on Nov 24, 2014 20:22:59 GMT -5
I wonder what Sonny's secret is? maybe it has something with Wednesday when "Sonny gets a huge shock!", sees his ex lover Paul? Paul is his ex boyfriend?Is that true!?I missed a few episodes before~
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 22:31:47 GMT -5
maybe it has something with Wednesday when "Sonny gets a huge shock!", sees his ex lover Paul? Paul is his ex boyfriend?Is that true!?I missed a few episodes before~ It's just a rumor for now.
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Post by talula on Nov 26, 2014 17:41:15 GMT -5
looks like Sonny gonna sleep with Paul next week, on nbs site there is a spoiler pic of Sonny naked in bed in hotel room
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Post by talula on Nov 26, 2014 18:06:13 GMT -5
Paul is such a sweetheart,lol Preview
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Post by cheerios on Nov 27, 2014 1:22:58 GMT -5
I'm surprised Paul is up for sleeping with anyone considering he's been in the hospital and looks pretty banged up.
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Post by talula on Dec 1, 2014 9:34:12 GMT -5
thanks! i think from spoilers it's pretty obvious that Sonny gonna sleep with Paul,the question is when, next week or a bit later? but wait, maybe this "Paul and Sonny's Hotel Bed Limbo" set could be flashbacks from the past?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2014 17:01:00 GMT -5
What's also interesting is Will comes home next Thursday.
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Post by talula on Dec 1, 2014 17:14:01 GMT -5
What's also interesting is Will comes home next Thursday. yes, and it says: Thursday, December 11, 2014 Will returns home to Sonny – but harbors a secret which he keeps from his husband.i'm wondering, what secret it could be?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2014 17:29:06 GMT -5
What's also interesting is Will comes home next Thursday. yes, and it says: Thursday, December 11, 2014 Will returns home to Sonny – but harbors a secret which he keeps from his husband.i'm wondering, what secret it could be? Not sure but Guy has said in interviews that Will secret is nothing compared to Sonny's. So it doesn't sound like Will cheats while in LA. But if Sonny is having sex with Paul on the 24th then it's safe to say Will and Sonny don't have a happy reunion. And I will also add the spoilers for today were over blown as usually. I would say Will ripped into Sonny. And everyone is on Will for not talking to Sonny in 3 days but Sonny has made no effort to go to LA to see Will like he said he was going to do.
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Post by sunshine0786 on Dec 1, 2014 20:38:35 GMT -5
thanks! i think from spoilers it's pretty obvious that Sonny gonna sleep with Paul,the question is when, next week or a bit later? but wait, maybe this "Paul and Sonny's Hotel Bed Limbo" set could be flashbacks from the past? There was some "bed limbo" flashback today, so maybe you're right! It could be more of that. Or not...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2014 21:30:14 GMT -5
I saw this on another board and decided to rewatch the flashback and look at the spoiler pic again. It's the same bed, you can tell by the headboard.
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Post by sunshine0786 on Dec 1, 2014 23:59:47 GMT -5
I saw this on another board and decided to rewatch the flashback and look at the spoiler pic again. It's the same bed, you can tell by the headboard. That explains this week's spoiler pic, but what about the Christmas spoiler " Paul & Sonny's Hotel Bed Limbo"? I guess we could analyze the word Limbo, meaning an in between place (not heaven or hell). Maybe Sonny is in Limbo with Will, not together but not apart, which puts him in a uncomfortable situation in a hotel room with Paul. Or he's in Limbo with Paul because he's still married to Will, so they can't be together and there's an awkward hotel bed scene that illustrates this. Or it's a reference to their past, when they were together, but couldn't really be together because Paul wanted to remain in the closet. This led to them spending many nights in hotel beds and not going out because Paul didn't want to be seen with Sonny in public. Lots of possibilities!
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Post by cheerios on Dec 2, 2014 3:59:04 GMT -5
So many years ago, Sonny and Paul had a relationship. It's was passionate and consuming considering how easily Sonny let Paul kiss him. But it was only half a relationship because Paul couldn't be out and they probably had a very tiny public life because Sonny doesn't hide his sexuality and Paul didn't want people to see him with Sonny. So Sonny made the choice to leave the relationship because it wasn't healthy for him. And now things are difficult with Will and Sonny going to have an affair? Smooth.
I'm guessing Will's big secret has to do with his job. Perhaps the studio wants him to move out to LA permanently? Or they want him to go back for a longer time? Or he's been offer a big job from them, but it means working 24/7 and never actually spending time together?
I get that Sonny and Will's marriage is in a bad place right now. With Will behaving like a selfish ass for the most part, (Maybe it's just me, but I kinda feel like they are making Will act more like Sami since she's not around anymore. Which is bull, since I miss Will acting like Will) But that does not mean it's ok for Sonny to go and do the hanky panky with some ex who couldn’t be out and open with Sonny the first time around. For all of Will’s faults, he loves Sonny, he married Sonny, and is proud to call Sonny his husband. I get that Paul can’t “come out” because of his job and maybe his family. But Sonny thinks it’s a good idea to risk his marriage and Ari for a guy that he couldn't have a real relationship with last time or even now in the present? Since Sonny is married and Paul is still in the closet.
I understand that their marriage is facing some difficulty, Will being problematic and taking a page out of his parent’s playbook. And Sonny being super busy with work and feeling neglected and left out of his own family. It’s not a good idea to complicate things even more by Sonny getting involved with Paul who messed Sonny about before. Sonny and Will love each other, they need to get over themselves and work as a team. Not against each other and constantly thinking of themselves. And their freaking family needs to stay out of their marriage.
Perhaps the writers want to repeat the whole Sami, EJ, Abby cheating storyline. Where Will like his mother is focusing on his needs instead of caring about his partner as well. Sonny is EJ, feeling ignored, neglected, and unwanted seeks attention elsewhere. And here comes Paul a blast from the past whose all shiny ready for some action.
Paul and Sonny have an affair, Paul wants Sonny for himself, but he won't come out of the closet. Making Sonny miserable because once again Paul can't give him what he wants and because he's cheating on Will. Of course the affair is exposed and Will kicks Sonny out wanting nothing to do with him. Sonny is heartbroken to loose his family of Will and Ari, who he dearly loves. Has Sonny ever had to fight for Will? Or has it always been Will screwing up and Sonny having to do the forgiving?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2014 6:01:20 GMT -5
I saw this on another board and decided to rewatch the flashback and look at the spoiler pic again. It's the same bed, you can tell by the headboard. That explains this week's spoiler pic, but what about the Christmas spoiler " Paul & Sonny's Hotel Bed Limbo"? I guess we could analyze the word Limbo, meaning an in between place (not heaven or hell). Maybe Sonny is in Limbo with Will, not together but not apart, which puts him in a uncomfortable situation in a hotel room with Paul. Or he's in Limbo with Paul because he's still married to Will, so they can't be together and there's an awkward hotel bed scene that illustrates this. Or it's a reference to their past, when they were together, but couldn't really be together because Paul wanted to remain in the closet. This led to them spending many nights in hotel beds and not going out because Paul didn't want to be seen with Sonny in public. Lots of possibilities! I think the spoiler pic for this week was posted too early, I think the pic is from the Christmas spoiler.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Dec 2, 2014 6:10:12 GMT -5
So many years ago, Sonny and Paul had a relationship. It's was passionate and consuming considering how easily Sonny let Paul kiss him. But it was only half a relationship because Paul couldn't be out and they probably had a very tiny public life because Sonny doesn't hide his sexuality and Paul didn't want people to see him with Sonny. So Sonny made the choice to leave the relationship because it wasn't healthy for him. And now things are difficult with Will and Sonny going to have an affair? Smooth.I'm guessing Will's big secret has to do with his job. Perhaps the studio wants him to move out to LA permanently? Or they want him to go back for a longer time? Or he's been offer a big job from them, but it means working 24/7 and never actually spending time together? I get that Sonny and Will's marriage is in a bad place right now. With Will behaving like a selfish ass for the most part, (Maybe it's just me, but I kinda feel like they are making Will act more like Sami since she's not around anymore. Which is bull, since I miss Will acting like Will) But that does not mean it's ok for Sonny to go and do the hanky panky with some ex who couldn’t be out and open with Sonny the first time around. For all of Will’s faults, he loves Sonny, he married Sonny, and is proud to call Sonny his husband. I get that Paul can’t “come out” because of his job and maybe his family. But Sonny thinks it’s a good idea to risk his marriage and Ari for a guy that he couldn't have a real relationship with last time or even now in the present? Since Sonny is married and Paul is still in the closet. I understand that their marriage is facing some difficulty, Will being problematic and taking a page out of his parent’s playbook. And Sonny being super busy with work and feeling neglected and left out of his own family. It’s not a good idea to complicate things even more by Sonny getting involved with Paul who messed Sonny about before. Sonny and Will love each other, they need to get over themselves and work as a team. Not against each other and constantly thinking of themselves. And their freaking family needs to stay out of their marriage.Perhaps the writers want to repeat the whole Sami, EJ, Abby cheating storyline. Where Will like his mother is focusing on his needs instead of caring about his partner as well. Sonny is EJ, feeling ignored, neglected, and unwanted seeks attention elsewhere. And here comes Paul a blast from the past whose all shiny ready for some action. Paul and Sonny have an affair, Paul wants Sonny for himself, but he won't come out of the closet. Making Sonny miserable because once again Paul can't give him what he wants and because he's cheating on Will. Of course the affair is exposed and Will kicks Sonny out wanting nothing to do with him. Sonny is heartbroken to loose his family of Will and Ari, who he dearly loves. Has Sonny ever had to fight for Will? Or has it always been Will screwing up and Sonny having to do the forgiving? Sonny has never had to fight anyone (other than Will's crippling self esteem/doubt) in order to get Will. It also has been Sonny in the role of the most forgiving boyfriend, lover, spouse and third parent for the majority of his time with Will. You may not think that Sonny and how he's behaving right now makes sense, but it does to me. Sonny has been so patient, so kind, so loving, so understanding and so supportive that it has made me want to shake him at times. How he's behaving right now, angry that his feelings, love and support is not being valued and appreciated by his own husband, to the point that he is having fantasies about an ex that he broke up with, due to him being in the closet has finally given Sonny the edge he needed. Sonny has some faults. He's not always willing to take any sort of behavior from Will. It's refreshing. As for Will not behaving like Will, I disagree with you. I think that "this Will" has always been there inside of him. It's been there, since he knew that Lucas took the wrap and went to jail, so that Will wouldn't have to take responsibility for his crime against EJ. It's been there, since he had those months of treating Sami like crap for cheating on Rafe with EJ. Will has never had to turn it onto Sonny, because he had no reason to do so in the past. When he knew that Sonny would bend over backwards to make him feel safe, loved, needed and supported (even when he finally told him about being the one who got Gabi pregnant). So now, Will's feeling the brunt of Sonny's disappointment and he's not prepared for it. Will has the nerve to bitch Sonny out for making their families believe something that is true?! Will hasn't taken the time to keep Sonny in the loop about things. I'm also peeved about how the notion that Sonny should be able to just fly out and visit his husband in LA, because it'll be more helpful towards Will and his schedule. It's the complete disregard of Sonny and what's happening in his life, that has me wanting to see Sonny be a little more angry and do something selfish and messy. Who really thinks that the possibility of Sonny having a one night stand, let alone an affair with Paul, will have him wanting to be in a real relationship with him or even want to leave Will? Sonny's feeling angry, bitter, hurt and neglected right now. Paul's just someone and something that Sonny could focus on other than his unhappiness with Will.
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Post by teachgirl on Dec 2, 2014 8:27:28 GMT -5
So many years ago, Sonny and Paul had a relationship. It's was passionate and consuming considering how easily Sonny let Paul kiss him. But it was only half a relationship because Paul couldn't be out and they probably had a very tiny public life because Sonny doesn't hide his sexuality and Paul didn't want people to see him with Sonny. So Sonny made the choice to leave the relationship because it wasn't healthy for him. And now things are difficult with Will and Sonny going to have an affair? Smooth.I'm guessing Will's big secret has to do with his job. Perhaps the studio wants him to move out to LA permanently? Or they want him to go back for a longer time? Or he's been offer a big job from them, but it means working 24/7 and never actually spending time together? I get that Sonny and Will's marriage is in a bad place right now. With Will behaving like a selfish ass for the most part, (Maybe it's just me, but I kinda feel like they are making Will act more like Sami since she's not around anymore. Which is bull, since I miss Will acting like Will) But that does not mean it's ok for Sonny to go and do the hanky panky with some ex who couldn’t be out and open with Sonny the first time around. For all of Will’s faults, he loves Sonny, he married Sonny, and is proud to call Sonny his husband. I get that Paul can’t “come out” because of his job and maybe his family. But Sonny thinks it’s a good idea to risk his marriage and Ari for a guy that he couldn't have a real relationship with last time or even now in the present? Since Sonny is married and Paul is still in the closet. I understand that their marriage is facing some difficulty, Will being problematic and taking a page out of his parent’s playbook. And Sonny being super busy with work and feeling neglected and left out of his own family. It’s not a good idea to complicate things even more by Sonny getting involved with Paul who messed Sonny about before. Sonny and Will love each other, they need to get over themselves and work as a team. Not against each other and constantly thinking of themselves. And their freaking family needs to stay out of their marriage.Perhaps the writers want to repeat the whole Sami, EJ, Abby cheating storyline. Where Will like his mother is focusing on his needs instead of caring about his partner as well. Sonny is EJ, feeling ignored, neglected, and unwanted seeks attention elsewhere. And here comes Paul a blast from the past whose all shiny ready for some action. Paul and Sonny have an affair, Paul wants Sonny for himself, but he won't come out of the closet. Making Sonny miserable because once again Paul can't give him what he wants and because he's cheating on Will. Of course the affair is exposed and Will kicks Sonny out wanting nothing to do with him. Sonny is heartbroken to loose his family of Will and Ari, who he dearly loves. Has Sonny ever had to fight for Will? Or has it always been Will screwing up and Sonny having to do the forgiving? Sonny has never had to fight anyone (other than Will's crippling self esteem/doubt) in order to get Will. It also has been Sonny in the role of the most forgiving boyfriend, lover, spouse and third parent for the majority of his time with Will. You may not think that Sonny and how he's behaving right now makes sense, but it does to me. Sonny has been so patient, so kind, so loving, so understanding and so supportive that it has made me want to shake him at times. How he's behaving right now, angry that his feelings, love and support is not being valued and appreciated by his own husband, to the point that he is having fantasies about an ex that he broke up with, due to him being in the closet has finally given Sonny the edge he needed. Sonny has some faults. He's not always willing to take any sort of behavior from Will. It's refreshing. As for Will not behaving like Will, I disagree with you. I think that "this Will" has always been there inside of him. It's been there, since he knew that Lucas took the wrap and went to jail, so that Will wouldn't have to take responsibility for his crime against EJ. It's been there, since he had those months of treating Sami like crap for cheating on Rafe with EJ. Will has never had to turn it onto Sonny, because he had no reason to do so in the past. When he knew that Sonny would bend over backwards to make him feel safe, loved, needed and supported (even when he finally told him about being the one who got Gabi pregnant). So now, Will's feeling the brunt of Sonny's disappointment and he's not prepared for it. Will has the nerve to bitch Sonny out for making their families believe something that is true?! Will hasn't taken the time to keep Sonny in the loop about things. I'm also peeved about how the notion that Sonny should be able to just fly out and visit his husband in LA, because it'll be more helpful towards Will and his schedule. It's the complete disregard of Sonny and what's happening in his life, that has me wanting to see Sonny be a little more angry and do something selfish and messy. Who really thinks that the possibility of Sonny having a one night stand, let alone an affair with Paul, will have him wanting to be in a real relationship with him or even want to leave Will?Sonny's feeling angry, bitter, hurt and neglected right now. Paul's just someone and something that Sonny could focus on other than his unhappiness with Will. This. From everything we've seen of Sonny's character, I don't see him immediately, and cruelly, dumping Will. And certainly not endangering his relationship with Ari. Other than being named as Ari's guardian if both Will and Gabi die, he really doesn't have any legal rights to her (at least they haven't mentioned them) if he and Will break up, so he would really need to be careful there. Although we don't know a lot about Sonny's past relationships, we do know that he rejected "just sex" not only with Brian but with Will during a time when he was feeling angry, hurt, and rejected. It wouldn't be surprising, and certainly would be entertaining and interesting to watch, if he was tired of being so self-sacrificing and reached for that comfort this time. Perfection is boring. I think we need to wait and see how Sonny and Paul's previous relationship is explained, how Paul's character is developed (I think I read somewhere that his mother will be appearing at some point), how Will is (inevitably) made more sympathetic, sweet, and vulnerable again. If they write this well as a true triangle (and writing well is always a big "if" on this show, I know), we should end up both feeling angry at all of them and sympathetic to all of them.
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Post by cheerios on Dec 2, 2014 14:41:09 GMT -5
Sonny has been the best man that Will could ever ask for to fall in love with. He's loving, patient, supportive, but Will has been treating him pretty badly lately. Like Will treating him like a doormat or neglecting him. I do think Sonny has reached his breaking point and Paul is a great distraction for him. But I don't want Sonny to cheat because Sonny is a great guy and I can see him hating himself for becoming a cheater. Will needs to step up and stop behaving like a child. Yes, he has a lot of things going on and growing up he's never really learned the best processing skills. But Will is a father now and he has a lot of people depending on him to be better. Sonny, Gabi, and Ari.
I heard that Paul's storyline is an athlete coming out, maybe he comes out this time so he can be a proper man for Sonny? I just hate the idea that the guy Sonny would cheat with would want to keep Sonny a secret as well. I'm guessing Sonny broke up with Paul last time because Paul couldn't come out. So Sonny is cheating on his badly behaving husband with someone who will mistreats him as well by keeping him a secret and making Sonny live half a life? I think I would be a little more ok if Sonny cheated with a man who was out and proud and would be proud to call Sonny his. But Paul is so scared of people knowing the truth that he hides away. Sonny doesn't deserve to go from one bad relationship (at this point in time) to another one.
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Post by Zathras on Dec 2, 2014 20:49:21 GMT -5
I'm tentatively optimistic that Sonny won't cheat (for the reasons discussed). But it's also true that he can only take so much. And unlike his previous opportunities, this time Paul is someone he's been with before, who he once cared for deeply. I guess we'll see. As for Will not behaving like Will, I disagree with you. I think that "this Will" has always been there inside of him. Ha. I keep thinking that Will is acting so much like his mom. He'd probably be offended at the idea. This is far from the first time he's acted like Sami. It won't be the last. Which reminds me (for some reason) ... I wonder how much Will's insecurities will feature in the story once he returns ... Yeah, I forget who suggested that, but I thought it was laughable. Will didn't find time for Lucas when he visited, so why should we think he would make time for Sonny, either?
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Post by talula on Dec 3, 2014 21:03:30 GMT -5
Info from Soapcentral.com "Spencer Neville let Soaps.com know he will be portraying Derrick for 16 episodes on "DOOL" SOD stating that he begins airing DEC 9 in an arc with Sonny." Who is he? Will's fling from LA?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2014 21:25:24 GMT -5
Info from Soapcentral.com "Spencer Neville let Soaps.com know he will be portraying Derrick for 16 episodes on "DOOL" SOD stating that he begins airing DEC 9 in an arc with Sonny." Who is he? Will's fling from LA? Many think he will have something to do with Will since the Sonny and Paul stuff is going on but if so why would he say the arc is with Sonny?
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Post by talula on Dec 3, 2014 21:33:45 GMT -5
Info from Soapcentral.com "Spencer Neville let Soaps.com know he will be portraying Derrick for 16 episodes on "DOOL" SOD stating that he begins airing DEC 9 in an arc with Sonny." Who is he? Will's fling from LA? Many think he will have something to do with Will since the Sonny and Paul stuff is going on but if so why would he say the arc is with Sonny? yeah,i heard that this Derrick guy gonna be involve in gay plot, but what Sonny has to do with new guy? another ex? lol
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2014 21:50:14 GMT -5
Could be someone Sonny hires for the new club and he becomes attracted to Will. He's only supposed to do 16 shows but based on how much he's on that could drag on for 2 months.
It would be really odd if Will knew him from LA because that would mean he follows Will to Salem. Can we say stalker?
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