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Post by talula on May 25, 2015 9:48:54 GMT -5
There has been a rumor that is saying that Days might hold off on recasting Sonny until after August.Reason being is that Guy Wilson's contract ends in August,and Days are waiting to see if he will resign.Also their hoping that Freddie will still have a change of heart.Again these are ONLY RUMORS and HAVE NOT BEEN CONFIRMED by either DAYS or NBC. yes, they gave Freddie time till August, and as i know Guy is aspire to continue his role,maybe he is not the best actor but i've never seen someone being so pleased and enthusiastic about their character in soap opera,lol, i doubt he will leave in near future,anyway we have to wait and see
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Post by blake on May 25, 2015 10:11:02 GMT -5
There has been a rumor that is saying that Days might hold off on recasting Sonny until after August.Reason being is that Guy Wilson's contract ends in August,and Days are waiting to see if he will resign.Also their hoping that Freddie will still have a change of heart.Again these are ONLY RUMORS and HAVE NOT BEEN CONFIRMED by either DAYS or NBC. yes, they gave Freddie time till August, and as i know Guy is aspire to continue his role,maybe he is not the best actor but i've never seen someone being so pleased and enthusiastic about their character in soap opera,lol, i doubt he will leave in near future,anyway we have to wait and see I agree with you.I like Guy he's not the best actor I've seen but he's not the worse.I feel sorry for him,because if you read around other message boards he really is taking a beating.
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Post by jjose712 on May 25, 2015 15:31:57 GMT -5
I think he being beating has very little to do with his acting. People generally are hard on recast, specially if the previous actor was a beloved one. Unfortunately for Guy, the recast came after Chandler really embraced the gay part of his character, maybe not on acting (frankly he seemed as boring in his final scenes as Van Hansis during the worse parts of ATWT) but he participated on gay parades and was less uptight in interviews. Then it happened his firing which no matter if he wanted to leave, it was not well handled. Chandler looks like a cute shy puppy and the producers looked abusive in the way they treated him. And then Guy appears, people complain that he is not as handsome as Chandler, he is not as good in the role (Guy strenght was that he was way less restrained about playing intimate scenes, unfortunately it seems someone thought he was too into it and put a stop) and all that jazz. The fact that people tend to forget the weakest parts of Chandler's acting and that Will is now more a douchebag than ever, make the rest. But nobody can doubt about Guy's commitment to the role
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Post by dalphine on May 26, 2015 17:14:58 GMT -5
This is why I like Guy Wilson because he's not afraid to go all out. If an actor takes a part he should be willing to go all out for the part. Plus the guy is a good actor in my opinion. I know it's hard to see a favorite actor leave a role because I been there. I also think Guy Wilson, is a nice looking guy.
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Post by mrfixit477 on May 26, 2015 18:23:30 GMT -5
05-26-15 Will
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Post by meaghan on May 27, 2015 0:43:38 GMT -5
I will tread lightly, because I understand the rules of this board. I do agree that at least some part of the general opinion about Guy on the internet is probably because he's a recast. But some recasts are embraced, it's not impossible for that to be a success if the actor fits the role well. For example, Greg Vaughn doesn't get epic amounts of criticism as far as I'm aware, and he's certainly not the original Eric Brady.
In Guy's case though, simply put, enthusiasm and eagerness are admirable, but they only get you so far. The rest comes down to ability. If good intentions alone equaled success, there would be a lot more millionaires in this world.
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Post by dalphine on May 27, 2015 7:10:39 GMT -5
I know your enthusiasm and good looks only get you in the door, but your talent gets you far and I think Guy Wilson has them all.
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Post by teachgirl on May 27, 2015 9:20:25 GMT -5
I feel that yes Will is being A total nut case and with all his scheming and lying he is going to end his marriage all by himself that being said Paul is not being honest either,he kkeps saying he came back to get to know,John and not cause trouble,between Sonny and Will however he spends more time trying to track down Sonny then with his Father which make him A lier to as for Will being mad when he walk's in only to see Paul holding his child I would be pissed off to did Will go to far yes he did,but no excuse for hitting WillWhat! Are you kidding? If someone insulted your mother like that you would stand there and do nothing??? Will got exactly what he deserved. In fact Paul should had really knocked his a-s out! Also, we are being shown very little Paul and John bonding scenes because the writers are not currently focused on that dynamic. Right now, John is just a "talk-to" for Paul discuss his feelings for Sonny with. It's the same for Sonny with his parents and Will with his grandmothers. No one "deserves" to be hit. There is never any excuse for violence. If Will had been a female character and had insulted Paul's mother, would anyone have cheered if Paul had socked that woman? People have said the same thing about Will's mother many, many times. He's never hit any of those people. During their argument in the hospital, Sonny insulted Sami, and during his discussion with Paul during the paternity reveal, Sonny called Paul's mom a liar, angering Paul. No punches were thrown. I understand that this insult is worse, but the terms whore and slut are thrown around with disgusting frequency by many characters on this show. Will grew up hearing Sami call Marlena that and then hearing others call Sami that, so unfortunately he may think that's a permissible insult. Also, Will's loss of control during the argument is somewhat understandable, since he had just walked into his own home and seen Paul holding his daughter.
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Post by sunshine0786 on May 28, 2015 19:48:28 GMT -5
I will tread lightly, because I understand the rules of this board. I do agree that at least some part of the general opinion about Guy on the internet is probably because he's a recast. But some recasts are embraced, it's not impossible for that to be a success if the actor fits the role well. For example, Greg Vaughn doesn't get epic amounts of criticism as far as I'm aware, and he's certainly not the original Eric Brady. In Guy's case though, simply put, enthusiasm and eagerness are admirable, but they only get you so far. The rest comes down to ability. If good intentions alone equaled success, there would be a lot more millionaires in this world. The difference between Greg Vaughn and Guy, though, is that Jensen Ackles hasn't been Eric Brady for a long time. There was a big gap between the time that Eric left and the time he was recast. In the case of Will, one day was Chandler Massey and the next he was Guy Wilson. That is much harder to do. Beyond the actors, a lot of how people take the recast is how the new person is integrated into the story. When it's such a quick recast there really is no time to do that. Compare it to the Jason recast on GH, and Steve Burton was Jason Morgan for 20 years. He was gone for two years and when Billy Miller came on they had a game plan to integrate him back into the story (that is still ongoing). Right now I'm clamoring for the day when he final knows who he is. Sure, acting has something to do with it, but if the rest of the story (in my opinion, obviously) and the natural build of chemistry with the rest of the characters doesn't work, neither does the recast. Guy was just thrust into an already built up role and was expected to have an immediate connection to a whole bunch of people he just met. That is not an easy thing to do, and that is why I think people are having a harder time with the recast.
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Post by jason47 on May 30, 2015 1:26:32 GMT -5
MAY 2015 EPISODE RANKINGS & STATS:DAILY CAST CHART: Review each day's cast list from May 2015 at www.jason47.com/days/castcharts2015.html2015 Episode Rankings. Here's how many episodes each actor has appeared in this year (1/1/15-5/31/15), out of a total of 105 episodes. For the complete list, please visit www.jason47.com. Rank. Actor (Character) # of Episodes1. Guy Wilson (Will Horton) 65 2. Molly Burnett (Melanie Jonas) 63 *. Shawn Christian (Daniel Jonas) 63 4. Jen Lilley (Theresa Donovan) 57 *. Freddie Smith (Sonny Kiriakis) 57 *. Arianne Zucker (Nicole Walker) 57 7. Eric Martsolf (Brady Black) 55 8. Christopher Sean (Paul Narita) 54 9. Melissa Archer (Serena Mason) 53 *. Casey Moss (J.J. Deveraux) 53 May Episode Rankings. Here's how many episodes each actor has appeared in this month (5/1/15-5/31/15), out of a total of 20 episodes. For the complete list, please visit www.jason47.comRank. Actor (Character) # of Episodes1. Shawn Christian (Daniel Jonas) 13 2. Paul Telfer (Xander Cook) 12 *. Arianne Zucker (Nicole Walker) 12 4. Molly Burnett (Melanie Jonas) 11 *. Billy Flynn (Chad DiMera) 11 6. Kassie DePaiva (Eve Larson) 10 *. Jen Lilley (Theresa Donovan) 10 *. Kate Mansi (Abigail Deveraux) 10 *. Eric Martsolf (Brady Black) 10 *. Casey Moss (J.J. Deveraux) 10 *. True O'Brien (Paige Larson) 10 *. Melissa Reeves (Jennifer Horton) 10 *. Guy Wilson (Will Horton) 10 SET TOTALS: May 2015Horton Town Square...18 Club TBD...17 Daniel's Apartment...15 Horton Town Square Private Area...14 Nurses' Station...12 Horton Living Room...10 Larson Apartment...9 Park...9 DiMera Study...8 Nicole's Office...8 Sonny & Will's Apartment...8 Xander's Hotel Room...8 Brady Pub (Booth only)...7 Castle Room/Italy...6 Theresa's Hospital Room...6 Jet...5 Kiriakis Mansion...5 Kiriakis Study...5 Lucas' Hotel Room...5 Baby's Hospital Room...3 Daniel's Office...3 Larson Apartment (Elevator Area)...3 Aiden's Office...2 Daniel's Apartment (Elevator Area)...2 Hope's Office...2 Hospital Waiting Area...2 Jennifer's Office...2 Ozarks Diner/Poplar Bluff...2 Stefano's Phone Limbo...2 Student Lounge...2 DiMera Jet...1 JJ's Bedroom (Horton)...1 Kiriakis Garden...1 Nursery (Castle)/Italy...1 Paul's Phone Limbo/San Francisco...1 Plane...1 Roman's Office...1 Sonny's Office...1 Tea Garden/San Francisco...1 DIRECTORS & SCRIPT WRITERS:5/1/15: Albert Alarr & Richard Culliton 5/4/15: Albert Alarr & Jeanne Marie Ford 5/5/15: Herb Stein & Carolyn Culliton 5/6/15: Steven Williford & Carolyn Culliton 5/7/15: Grant A. Johnson & David Cherrill 5/8/15: Grant A. Johnson & David Cherrill 5/11/15: Steven Williford & David Cherrill 5/12/15: Phil Sogard & Janet Iacobuzio 5/13/15: Steven Williford & Carolyn Culliton 5/14/15: Steven Williford & Jeanne Marie Ford 5/15/15: Herb Stein & Richard Culliton 5/18/15: Grant A. Johnson & Melissa Salmons 5/19/15: Grant A. Johnson & Melissa Salmons 5/20/15: Steven Williford & Melissa Salmons 5/21/15: Albert Alarr & David Cherrill 5/22/15: Albert Alarr & Richard Culliton 5/26/15: Steven Williford & Carolyn Culliton 5/27/15: Herb Stein & Jeanne Marie Ford 5/28/15: Herb Stein & Jeanne Marie Ford 5/29/15: Grant A. Johnson & Jeanne Marie Ford www.jason47.com
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Post by justinate on May 30, 2015 2:50:21 GMT -5
I will tread lightly, because I understand the rules of this board. I do agree that at least some part of the general opinion about Guy on the internet is probably because he's a recast. But some recasts are embraced, it's not impossible for that to be a success if the actor fits the role well. For example, Greg Vaughn doesn't get epic amounts of criticism as far as I'm aware, and he's certainly not the original Eric Brady. In Guy's case though, simply put, enthusiasm and eagerness are admirable, but they only get you so far. The rest comes down to ability. If good intentions alone equaled success, there would be a lot more millionaires in this world. The difference between Greg Vaughn and Guy, though, is that Jensen Ackles hasn't been Eric Brady for a long time. There was a big gap between the time that Eric left and the time he was recast. In the case of Will, one day was Chandler Massey and the next he was Guy Wilson. That is much harder to do. Beyond the actors, a lot of how people take the recast is how the new person is integrated into the story. When it's such a quick recast there really is no time to do that. Compare it to the Jason recast on GH, and Steve Burton was Jason Morgan for 20 years. He was gone for two years and when Billy Miller came on they had a game plan to integrate him back into the story (that is still ongoing). Right now I'm clamoring for the day when he final knows who he is. Sure, acting has something to do with it, but if the rest of the story (in my opinion, obviously) and the natural build of chemistry with the rest of the characters doesn't work, neither does the recast. Guy was just thrust into an already built up role and was expected to have an immediate connection to a whole bunch of people he just met. That is not an easy thing to do, and that is why I think people are having a harder time with the recast. Plus there was the whole controversy about how Chandler was let go from the show. That built in a certain level of sympathy for Chandler and antagonism towards whoever replaced him. Never mind that Chandler had intended to leave the show anyway. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I'd much rather have an actor who might not be the most talented, but is willing to give the role his all, versus a talented actor who just can't be bothered and disrespects his castmates, employers and audience. Guy has done a wonderful job with Christopher Sean. I was rewatching their sex scene and there is a raw passion there that isn't easy to convey. It was never present in any of the Will-Sonny scenes, regardless of who played Will. You need the right scene partner to bring that vibe and Chris is that to Guy. I hope, with Freddie's departure, they will be able to share more scenes together - yes, of the sexy kind too.
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Post by blake on May 30, 2015 15:49:56 GMT -5
I like Guy Wilson I will admit it took me some time to get used to him as Will,but that's only because I was a huge fan of Chandler's Will.To me the situation is you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.I remember when it was first announced that he was the new Will (Guy) he said something on his Twitter account that people perceived to be homophobic toward the Transgender Community.I read the comments I didn't find them to be to be homophobic at all,but I felt so sorry for him.I mean he really took a beating off social media he hadn't already starting airing yet,and people wanted him fired.He did apologize also Chandler was never fired I remember watching his backstage interview after he won his second Emmy.He stated that he wanted to back and finish up his college degree,and that I respected him for his honestly.On the another hand Dylan Patton was fired because he didn't want to play Will as gay.IF Sonny is recasted and remember I said IF the new actor will take a huge beating I can guarantee it.Only because Freddie has played Sonny since the beginning,and people have a hard time to change.
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Post by dalphine on May 31, 2015 0:14:46 GMT -5
I'm glad Guy is getting a little love here.
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Post by blake on May 31, 2015 18:53:08 GMT -5
Ok some new information that I just read.Freddie did go back the first week of May to tape some scenes those scenes should air around November or December.Apparently Sonny leaves town to sort out who he wants to be with Paul or Will.When he returns that is when he will choose.
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Post by meaghan on Jun 1, 2015 4:49:24 GMT -5
Ok some new information that I just read.Freddie did go back the first week of May to tape some scenes those scenes should air around November or December.Apparently Sonny leaves town to sort out who he wants to be with Paul or Will.When he returns that is when he will choose. Thank you for the info, but if you don't mind my asking, where do you keep getting this info? I'm not sure I feel like I can buy it when I don't know where it's coming from.
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Post by blake on Jun 1, 2015 8:01:49 GMT -5
Ok some new information that I just read.Freddie did go back the first week of May to tape some scenes those scenes should air around November or December.Apparently Sonny leaves town to sort out who he wants to be with Paul or Will.When he returns that is when he will choose. Thank you for the info, but if you don't mind my asking, where do you keep getting this info? I'm not sure I feel like I can buy it when I don't know where it's coming from. First your very welcomed.I usually get my information form a fan website,and this person claims they have connections to backstage sources.I personally do not know this person,and I take every thing they post with a grain of salt,it is true that they do get some things right they also get things wrong.That is why I always and will continue to say take everything with a grain of salt.Untill you confirmation from Days or NBC.
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Post by dalphine on Jun 1, 2015 23:34:54 GMT -5
I liked today's show love seeing Will and Sonny I just wish they were on for a longer time.
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Post by mrfixit477 on Jun 2, 2015 14:11:34 GMT -5
would be something if Sonny does have sex with Derrick Will pushes and Paul walks away
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Post by blake on Jun 2, 2015 15:54:10 GMT -5
would be something if Sonny does have sex with Derrick Will pushes and Paul walks away You have put the fantasy in my head.Lord that would be so Hotttttttttttttttttt!!!!
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Post by dalphine on Jun 2, 2015 15:57:06 GMT -5
Okay, I'm so glad they had this talk so Will can see where he really stands. I'm not liking Sonny all that much these days. Why is Will getting all the hate. Sonny cheated on Will with Paul when he was in LA. They didn't go to bed together, but they kissed. I'm tired of everyone hating on Will and everyone in Salem has cheated one time or another. Sonny Mom is cheating with Will dad right now. Will deserves a break. I really enjoyed Will calling Sonny on his shit. I like to know why is Derrick coming back. Maybe Sonny will be leaving town with him.
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Post by blake on Jun 2, 2015 16:39:25 GMT -5
Okay, I'm so glad they had this talk so Will can see where he really stands. I'm not liking Sonny all that much these days. Why is Will getting all the hate. Sonny cheated on Will with Paul when he was in LA. They didn't go to bed together, but they kissed. I'm tired of everyone hating on Will and everyone in Salem has cheated one time or another. Sonny Mom is cheating with Will dad right now. Will deserves a break. I really enjoyed Will calling Sonny on his shit. I like to know why is Derrick coming back. Maybe Sonny will be leaving town with him. Why I'm so angry at Will is very simple,because basically Will cheated on Sonny by HAVING SEX with Paul.Yes I agree that Sonny did cheat on Will by kissing Paul,but having sex is far worse in my book.Also Will never called Sonny from LA,and when he finally did he jumped down his throat telling him to tell people he called so that people would get off his back.He lied to Sonny about the real reason he returned so early from LA he was fired Sonny had to learn that from somebody else.When the affair was finally exposed he tried to blame it on Sonny by saying if you would have told me that you and Paul had dated.What damn difference does that make?Plus Will blackmailing Paul's mother,yes Sonny is no angel,but Will is acting far more worse at this point then Sonny.
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Post by dalphine on Jun 2, 2015 17:13:32 GMT -5
I love a friendly debate, yes Will slept with Paul but to me Sonny still cheated. Will wasn't trying to blame Sonny. Sonny was wrong in marrying Will when he was still in love with Paul. I still think Sonny should have told Will about Paul he didn't have to give a name. Sonny took Will innocent, he knew Will was new to coming out he wasn't sure of him self. Will needed to experience life before he got married. Sonny had his chance to live his life the way he wanted but Will hasn't. Yes Will has lied and so has Sonny, maybe not as much as Will but still lied.
I really wish Will would tell Sonny to leave and go ahead and be with Paul since he loves Paul. Sonny just didn't want to tell Will how he felt about Paul he kept trying to get around the question. I really would love to see Will and Sonny together like they were early in their relationship so much in love. Sonny is driving Will crazy and he knows it. Like Will said how long is he going to hold that ONS over his head. You don't see Will saying to Sonny all the time about loosing all their money.
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Post by blake on Jun 2, 2015 17:42:44 GMT -5
I love a friendly debate, yes Will slept with Paul but to me Sonny still cheated. Will wasn't trying to blame Sonny. Sonny was wrong in marrying Will when he was still in love with Paul. I still think Sonny should have told Will about Paul he didn't have to give a name. Sonny took Will innocent, he knew Will was new to coming out he wasn't sure of him self. Will needed to experience life before he got married. Sonny had his chance to live his life the way he wanted but Will hasn't. Yes Will has lied and so has Sonny, maybe not as much as Will but still lied. I really wish Will would tell Sonny to leave and go ahead and be with Paul since he loves Paul. Sonny just didn't want to tell Will how he felt about Paul he kept trying to get around the question. I really would love to see Will and Sonny together like they were early in their relationship so much in love. Sonny is driving Will crazy and he knows it. Like Will said how long is he going to hold that ONS over his head. You don't see Will saying to Sonny all the time about loosing all their money. Well,yes Will was blaming Sonny in the beginning for the affair he might not have come out and said the words.But when he said they were arguing a lot at the time that right there to me was saying.Well you pushed me to do this I do agree that Sonny should have told Will about the money up front,and that I blame Sonny for that and yes I do believe that Sonny is leading Paul on.That is driving me crazy yes Sonny has done his fair share of lying,but Will's lies have been far more demeaning.
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Post by meaghan on Jun 2, 2015 19:54:11 GMT -5
Okay, I'm so glad they had this talk so Will can see where he really stands. I'm not liking Sonny all that much these days. Why is Will getting all the hate. Sonny cheated on Will with Paul when he was in LA. They didn't go to bed together, but they kissed. I'm tired of everyone hating on Will and everyone in Salem has cheated one time or another. Sonny Mom is cheating with Will dad right now. Will deserves a break. I really enjoyed Will calling Sonny on his shit. I like to know why is Derrick coming back. Maybe Sonny will be leaving town with him. Everyone is human. Everyone makes mistakes. And as long as the intent behind the mistakes wasn't completely thoughtless or cruel, it's easy to feel sympathy towards those who have messed up. It's easy to see they deserve another chance. However. Will does not deserve a break quite yet because the scale is still too heavily tipped with all the things he's has done to hurt Sonny that were thoughtless, and often knowingly cruel (not just to Sonny but to Paul, Tori, Marlena, John...), and he's not done nearly enough to make up for it all. Neglect, cheating, lying, manipulation, blackmail, deflecting blame. What has Will done to balance these things out and heal the hurt he caused? Only more lying, more manipulation, more accusations thrown Sonny's way. So in my opinion, the difference is this: Sonny's motivations aren't thoughtless or cruel. They're not selfish. Will's are. They're both certainly making mistakes, Sonny is a hot mess right now. But one person's are honest and born of hurt and confusion. The other's seem to be born of a single-minded desire to get what he wants, everyone else be damned. That's why Will gets the grief.
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Post by Zathras on Jun 2, 2015 19:56:09 GMT -5
I haven't watched today's scenes yet, so I may have more to say after I do. I've said before that Sonny isn't perfect. He's made mistakes. But I think the show has basically driven Will off a cliff. Unfortunately, the development to get to this point has been so forced and contrived that it really strains credulity. I think if the show really wanted me to have much sympathy for Will in this "triangle" then they needed to do a much better job at developing and balancing the actions of Will and Sonny. As for the Sonny/Paul kiss, go back and watch the scene again. Paul instigated the kiss and Sonny pulled away first ... albeit after a moment . In my opinion that's a much different thing than Will going to bed with Paul. Sonny was wrong in marrying Will when he was still in love with Paul. Why? That's a serious question because I don't get it. Sonny and Paul didn't work out, so Sonny moved on. Stuff like that happens all the time. I don't see anything wrong with Sonny marrying Will when he did. It took a long time for them to get married; it's not like it happened overnight. Well, it's not like Sonny has ever forced Will to do anything in that regard. Will chose his own path; Sonny didn't choose it for him.
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