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Post by gabyta07 on May 23, 2011 19:23:39 GMT -5
Is that Sleeping Beauty and Prince Charming throwing insults at each other. I could not help but laugh when Olli said that having a child around the house was too exciting for Christian. He thinks Christian is a bore but I know he does not mean it, Christian has made him see stars on many occasions. At least they are in the same room together even though it looks like they want to tear each other apart. I just love them so. yeah, they didn't mean what they said each other... olli is only embarassed to be seen like that and tries to hurt Christian but we know Christian made him happy all the time. 3 YEARS. But he indeed was a party boy. Christian gave him a HOME. Christian has always been a little bit on the conservative side, while Olli has always gone to the flow, an adventurer. I dont think olli lied completely when he said that. Its clear he is focusing on the negativity. But I do think some of that stuff he said contain a little bit of truth. I mean everytime Olli wants some fun, Christians cuts it short. I mean he wanted to go vacationing with Christian, at the end bc of Christian's studies he had to go alone...in fact he stayed there for 2 months. When Olli wanted to have sex, they couldnt bc of Christian's boxing When Olli wanted to make parties with Rob, Christian began with his jealousy. When Olli wanted the big wedding, Christian told him he wanted a wedding by themselves When Olli wanted kids, Christian said "not with me" |
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Post by mandalai on May 23, 2011 19:28:57 GMT -5
@gabyta they have found their equilibrium in their differencies... olli loves Christian like that and viceversa. The entire dialogue was driven by the pain and madness but they didn't mean a word. If they weren't so stubborn they would jump on the couch and then in the bed ;D shame on them! ;D
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Post by sonia38 on May 23, 2011 19:38:16 GMT -5
Well, I guess Christian told him the same tihng when he asked him abput boxing. There were so serious low blows. Olli saying that Christian was a bore. Who is he trying to fool? Christian was right that he was just upset that Christian saw him that way and knows what he's been doing. Tomorrow should be interesting. Can Theresa be any more of a b*tch. I didn't know that Dana was suppost to be her persoanal slave. Ordering to rewash her silk and that she only uses titanium. Hagen probably won't let her do that for long. Loved her falling off the bench. Who does sit ups on a bench anyway? Thanks MM. I don't even know why Dana make Theresa speaks to her that way, who the hell is Theresa suppose to be, she's just a freaking jockey but she acts like she's queen. I'm waiting for the day from Dana to clock her one. That fall off the chair should have been much harder. |
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Post by Trish on May 23, 2011 19:43:55 GMT -5
yeah, they didn't mean what they said each other... olli is only embarassed to be seen like that and tries to hurt Christian but we know Christian made him happy all the time. 3 YEARS. But he indeed was a party boy. Christian gave him a HOME. Christian has always been a little bit on the conservative side, while Olli has always gone to the flow, an adventurer. I dont think olli lied completely when he said that. Its clear he is focusing on the negativity. But I do think some of that stuff he said contain a little bit of truth. I mean everytime Olli wants some fun, Christians cuts it short. I mean he wanted to go vacationing with Christian, at the end bc of Christian's studies he had to go alone...in fact he stayed there for 2 months. When Olli wanted to have sex, they couldnt bc of Christian's boxing When Olli wanted to make parties with Rob, Christian began with his jealousy. When Olli wanted the big wedding, Christian told him he wanted a wedding by themselves When Olli wanted kids, Christian said "not with me" I agree with the first part, but when you started giving examples you lost me. Just like Christian didn't want to go on vacation because of school, which I always support that, Olli many times put the NL ahead of what Christian wanted and Christian was okay with it. Not having sex before a fight? Olli wouldn't let Chrisitan give up boxing, so he had to live with what goes with it. It wasn't the parties that were the problem. He helped set up for them. It was Rob that was the problem and he was right about that. When Rob was gone, he told Olli that he could still do parties, but Olli stopped doing them. Christian gave into the big wedding, that doesn't count, I think the reason he protested was because Olli was moving so fast. And the last one was when he was mad after he and Olli had agreed they didn't need children. He was just as happy to have Lily as Olli was. |
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Post by Flippityfloppityflip on May 23, 2011 19:46:23 GMT -5
What I don't get is when did we jump from a temporary break to what looks like a real break? noone ever said it was forever, non even olli. And now he says to his own husband that what he does in his life is something private?? And Christian does not seem that surprised...  Well, if my partner said they wanted a break, then gave me 41 packing cases filled with all my stuff, I would be surprised if they wanted to have me back  |
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Post by Trish on May 23, 2011 19:47:41 GMT -5
What I don't get is when did we jump from a temporary break to what looks like a real break? noone ever said it was forever, non even olli. And now he says to his own husband that what he does in his life is something private?? And Christian does not seem that surprised... Well, if my partner said they wanted a break, then gave me 41 packing cases filled with all my stuff, I would be surprised if they wanted to have me back WORD |
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Post by AndreB on May 23, 2011 19:55:40 GMT -5
Well, if my partner said they wanted a break, then gave me 41 packing cases filled with all my stuff, I would be surprised if they wanted to have me back Well, it looked like Andi and Christian moved MOST of Christian's stuff (including his old toys!) out a few days BEFORE Olli went with those few boxes. One of the biggest WTF-moments in this story so far. ;D |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2011 20:07:04 GMT -5
What I don't get is when did we jump from a temporary break to what looks like a real break? noone ever said it was forever, non even olli. And now he says to his own husband that what he does in his life is something private?? And Christian does not seem that surprised... Well, if my partner said they wanted a break, then gave me 41 packing cases filled with all my stuff, I would be surprised if they wanted to have me back Bull's eye! |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2011 20:31:22 GMT -5
So many good moments in this episode... "Wrong. I never did it because of Christian" LIES OLLIE!! When you married him, you were looking for that stability in life, to share your life forever with the love of your life, not to share "the same groove on."  And why do you go to sleep in the middle of a great advice from Aunt Charlie!!? ugh! Charlie, next time record that and overplay it to your nephew ;D Christian you can never say no to three women that are begging you with puppy eyes  "Well, he doesn't look all that bad." Translation---> "He looks REALLY bad." From minute 3:18 to 3:40, I think there isn't enough words    It looks like Christian is about to cry  and even if he's not, he seems very sad. Aww, I love this pic. Olli is Dornröschen (Sleeping Beauty) and Christian the prince.  I agree completely! <3 This is when you know that the boys know each other so well. Christian- "I'm not his nanny." Olli- "I don't need a nanny." haha  The whole fighting and argument can give us a sense on how much it hurts for both. Gaby, the whole yelling back and forth doesn't precisely mean that they act as if they're officially over, but rather to put a strong defense so the other can't see how hard it has hit. I'm sure their love is real and that the last 3 years weren't any imagination of ours. This is just a way to ventilate whatever their heads is throwing at them, without thinking properly. They need more of these fights, so they can finally open up. and like twatts said, if it goes to extremes to which they'll have a hot, sexy and steamy sex make-up scene, well, bring it on! ;D  I can't wait for tomorrow! that thunderstorm shall be good |
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Post by Trish on May 23, 2011 20:43:17 GMT -5
Well, if my partner said they wanted a break, then gave me 41 packing cases filled with all my stuff, I would be surprised if they wanted to have me back Well, it looked like Andi and Christian moved MOST of Christian's stuff (including his old toys!) out a few days BEFORE Olli went with those few boxes. One of the biggest WTF-moments in this story so far. ;D Olli brought in a few boxes, he said that the rest were outside. I think the toy was just sitting in the car. That whole scene was kind of weird, because he moved those boxes and then shortly afterwards he came backing saying that he needed a change of clothes and with all that stuff, why would he have forgotten his boxing gloves. There are a lot of WTF moments and maybe one day when this is all over we can go back over them, or maybe one of our great video people can summarize them up. |
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Post by Trish on May 23, 2011 20:46:34 GMT -5
So many good moments in this episode... "Wrong. I never did it because of Christian" LIES OLLIE!! When you married him, you were looking for that stability in life, to share your life forever with the love of your life, not to share "the same groove on." And why do you go to sleep in the middle of a great advice from Aunt Charlie!!? ugh! Charlie, next time record that and overplay it to your nephew ;D Christian you can never say no to three women that are begging you with puppy eyes "Well, he doesn't look all that bad." Translation---> "He looks REALLY bad." From minute 3:18 to 3:40, I think there isn't enough words Aww, I love this pic. Olli is Dornröschen (Sleeping Beauty) and Christian the prince. I agree completely! <3 This is when you know that the boys know each other so well. Christian- "I'm not his nanny." Olli- "I don't need a nanny." haha The whole fighting and argument can give us a sense on how much it hurts for both. Gaby, the whole yelling back and forth doesn't precisely mean that they act as if they're officially over, but rather to put a strong defense so the other can't see how hard it has hit. I'm sure their love is real and that the last 3 years weren't any imagination of ours. This is just a way to ventilate whatever their heads is throwing at them, without thinking properly. They need more of these fights, so they can finally open up. and like twatts said, if it goes to extremes to which they'll have a hot, sexy and steamy sex make-up scene, well, bring it on! ;D I can't wait for tomorrow! that thunderstorm shall be good It should be. Make sure all breakables and sharp objects are out of the way. |
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Post by sonia38 on May 23, 2011 21:10:37 GMT -5
It's kinda sad that Olli can't even stay in his home or sleep in his bed without Christian there so he goes out parting and staying out all night then what else does he do? He comes home and then goes to work. He's not sleeping, he's not eating properly, he's just partying. When they were together, they spend their evenings being together, now they are apart and Olli is falling apart yet he won't acknowledge such, that's just sad.
By the way, who does Christian think he is fooling. He goes to NL after work for what? Could it be that he was expecting to see that special someone.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2011 21:25:19 GMT -5
Of course he's fooling himself, just as much as Olli is.
I don't think he would go to NL just for a cup coffee, he needs more than that! he needs his Olli! ;D
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Post by Trish on May 23, 2011 22:27:11 GMT -5
It's kinda sad that Olli can't even stay in his home or sleep in his bed without Christian there so he goes out parting and staying out all night then what else does he do? He comes home and then goes to work. He's not sleeping, he's not eating properly, he's just partying. When they were together, they spend their evenings being together, now they are apart and Olli is falling apart yet he won't acknowledge such, that's just sad. By the way, who does Christian think he is fooling. He goes to NL after work for what? Could it be that he was expecting to see that special someone. I assumed that Charlie called him. I never thought it that way. I knew getting rid of Christian's things wouldn't be enough. |
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Post by gabyta07 on May 23, 2011 22:55:05 GMT -5
But he indeed was a party boy. Christian gave him a HOME. Christian has always been a little bit on the conservative side, while Olli has always gone to the flow, an adventurer. I dont think olli lied completely when he said that. Its clear he is focusing on the negativity. But I do think some of that stuff he said contain a little bit of truth. I mean everytime Olli wants some fun, Christians cuts it short. I mean he wanted to go vacationing with Christian, at the end bc of Christian's studies he had to go alone...in fact he stayed there for 2 months. When Olli wanted to have sex, they couldnt bc of Christian's boxing When Olli wanted to make parties with Rob, Christian began with his jealousy. When Olli wanted the big wedding, Christian told him he wanted a wedding by themselves When Olli wanted kids, Christian said "not with me" I agree with the first part, but when you started giving examples you lost me. Just like Christian didn't want to go on vacation because of school, which I always support that, Olli many times put the NL ahead of what Christian wanted and Christian was okay with it. Not having sex before a fight? Olli wouldn't let Chrisitan give up boxing, so he had to live with what goes with it. It wasn't the parties that were the problem. He helped set up for them. It was Rob that was the problem and he was right about that. When Rob was gone, he told Olli that he could still do parties, but Olli stopped doing them. Christian gave into the big wedding, that doesn't count, I think the reason he protested was because Olli was moving so fast. And the last one was when he was mad after he and Olli had agreed they didn't need children. He was just as happy to have Lily as Olli was. , maybe Im remembering wrong, but what I remember is Christian coming for his clothes, and that action making Olli decide to give his stuff back Now, you know Im in both sides, here Im just giving the info were Olli have to give up his adventoruous ways, as we know Christian has also to do his part in the relationship, and Oliver has messed up really bad, specially what it comes to NL. I just wanted to point out, the many times where Olli had to subdue his adventorous side for being with Christian. Im just saying that everything they say to eachother, had some true in it, and resentment. I think @sakurasakae told me, that yelling at each other didnt mean they were behaving like they had broke up...it wasnt the yelling that make me think that, it was the content. Olli point out to Christian, that he didnt have any bussiness in his life (For me, your husband is your private life, and it is his bussiness your private life unless you are separated) Christian accepted it, but say he had been his part of his private life Christian accepting it was a thing of the past and Olli saying that, it did come off to me, like they were already broken up. |
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Post by teachgirl on May 23, 2011 23:04:41 GMT -5
Neither of them has removed that ring. Since Christian moved out we haven't even seen Olli fiddling with his ring/taking it off and putting it back on as he did several times before the break. When he takes it off, then I will believe that he really believes deep down that they are over.
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Post by bkoz on May 24, 2011 0:53:33 GMT -5
Thank you MM for the video and subs. I liked Dana and Christian today. Dana actually said she's sorry to Christian for always talking about herself. Well thank god she notices. And Theresa is a bitch. Just because she's the super jockey, she thinks she can boss Dana around. Anyway I liked today epi with the boys. Even though they both took some nasty blows at each other, you can still feel the love between them. ( well I did anyway ). And I liked that Charlie and Rebecca are trying to help Christian and Olli, cause nobody else is. Can't wait till tomorrow to see what else happens.
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Post by bel7003 on May 24, 2011 1:39:51 GMT -5
I've just watched MM's vid. Man, Olli is really shutting Christian out. And he's being unfair, saying Christian is fun-free and criticizing his routine (doing things on time, and such.) He's trying to fool everybody (himself included) saying he feels wonderful for partying all night. Everyone can see he's miserable, but he's not going to lower his guard. And I loved Christian being all sweet and tender while Olli was asleep. But the minute he woke up... it all started again. I just wish Charlie was right. That they yell at each other, get everything out of their chest and then have the best make up sex ever... please? I can't stand to see them hurt one another so much. |
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Post by lily90 on May 24, 2011 5:58:05 GMT -5
I watched the espisode again this morning and noticed that at 2:35 christian is so angry that he doesnìt know how to count anymore..! ;D
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Post by gelybi on May 24, 2011 9:18:48 GMT -5
Strangely, I really enjoyed this episode ;D I liked Olli AND I liked Christian, I liked Charlie AND Rebecca...gosh, I even liked Dana!! ;D Olli is being very human, I know many of you don't understand him, but in that situation his reactions are quite normal. As Christian stated, he was embarrased to show how he's really feeling inside but not only that. At this point I think he's already forgiven Christian, but he continues to avoid him and push him away because of his fear of being hurt again. He's suffering so much that he can't bear the idea of living that hell again if he lets go and take Chris back. Actually he's so afraid of himself, thinking that he could fall in Christian's arms anytime now (and risk being betrayed again), that he let his mouth say the first offensive thing that come to mind to scare his love away. And the problem here is that being away from him is as painful an option. That's why he's acting like a mad man, he's being humanly irrational. He needs and wants something from Christian now that he knows is not possible to get, he needs to be absolutely sure that he'd never cheat again, but you can't have guarantees in love, love and relationships are always a risk. He needs time to accept that what they had is worth to risk again, just because they can't be happy separated they need to fight to save their marriage together. Christian, on the other hand can say any kind of nonsense to others, but when he's in front a harmless asleep Olli, he just can't resist to touch him, and worry for him...FINALLY showing that he cares. I was starting to worry about his "I said I'm sorry, it's time for you to forgive me" position. As I said from the beginning of this sl, my fear was that he could behave indifferent like with Coco. His macho attitude was getting on my nerves big time, and he was not helping things with Olli at all. I'm definetely not over the Jessica thing, but if he shows somehow he loves Olli and his suffering through all the bravado, I can accept his mistakes better. Now we can see a very in-character Christian, using aggression to hide his true feelings and avoid being hurt again. Basically they are feeling the same, so there's still hope. Another FINALLY goes to Dana, it seems that she remembered how to use her brain and awknoledged the fact she's always talking to a just-separated man about HER problems...and she made that new bitchy girl fall! ;D that was so nice that I'm not sure if it was in the script |
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Post by teachgirl on May 24, 2011 9:43:35 GMT -5
Strangely, I really enjoyed this episode ;D I liked Olli AND I liked Christian, I liked Charlie AND Rebecca...gosh, I even liked Dana!! ;D Olli is being very human, I know many of you don't understand him, but in that situation his reactions are quite normal. As Christian stated, he was embarrased to show how he's really feeling inside but not only that. At this point I think he's already forgiven Christian, but he continues to avoid him and push him away because of his fear of being hurt again. He's suffering so much that he can't bear the idea of living that hell again if he lets go and take Chris back. Actually he's so afraid of himself, thinking that he could fall in Christian's arms anytime now (and risk being betrayed again), that he let his mouth say the first offensive thing that come to mind to scare his love away. And the problem here is that being away from him is as painful an option. That's why he's acting like a mad man, he's being humanly irrational. He needs and wants something from Christian now that he knows is not possible to get, he needs to be absolutely sure that he'd never cheat again, but you can't have guarantees in love, love and relationships are always a risk. He needs time to accept that what they had is worth to risk again, just because they can't be happy separated they need to fight to save their marriage together. Christian, on the other hand can say any kind of nonsense to others, but when he's in front a harmless asleep Olli, he just can't resist to touch him, and worry for him...FINALLY showing that he cares. I was starting to worry about his "I said I'm sorry, it's time for you to forgive me" position. As I said from the beginning of this sl, my fear was that he could behave indifferent like with Coco. His macho attitude was getting on my nerves big time, and he was not helping things with Olli at all. I'm definetely not over the Jessica thing, but if he shows somehow he loves Olli and his suffering through all the bravado, I can accept his mistakes better. Now we can see a very in-character Christian, using aggression to hide his true feelings and avoid being hurt again. Basically they are feeling the same, so there's still hope. Another FINALLY goes to Dana, it seems that she remembered how to use her brain and awknoledged the fact she's always talking to a just-separated man about HER problems...and she made that new bitchy girl fall! ;D that was so nice that I'm not sure if it was in the script I agree with every word! I have thought all along that Olli's reactions were very human. I must say that the dialogue in this ep was really well written. This is just the classic way that couples fight dirty! (not that I would know anything about that ... And yeah, this Theresa girl is making Dana look better and better, which I'm sure is the intention. |
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Post by dalphine on May 24, 2011 11:08:51 GMT -5
gelybi... I agree with every word you have said.
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