Chrolli 27/01/11 ep chat (+ caps/vid)

[joanna]

MM's closed-caption video...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zXq58b9dz0


MM's embedded subs video...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=eALM1BWgrKg


VL 27 JANUARY 2011 caps[/url][/size]

My full set of caps as enlargeable thumbnails....

[kristen]

I'm looking forward to seeing May's subbed vid for today and Joanna's emotional caps. Vielen Dank, ladies!

[sio127]

Well.....cute episode but it was as I thought, Christian all "blamy" (made up word) and Olli all "guilty" then Christian all "sorry I overreacted".....but it was cute never the less....AND we got to see Lily without her dummy for once!!

[michelle8]

This episode almost broke my heart. Poor Olli.
And Christian is a jerk.
Jo's acting was phenomenal!

[dalphine]

It was a nice episode and I enjoy it, but I know I'll enjoy it more once MMay subs video gets upload. Jo acting was great and I did feel sorry for him. He already felt gulity and Christian didn't help it any at all. But I still love my guys. Soaps are about drama.

[marinka019]

I think , it's just Christian today , who should have a big qualms .
Because it's him , who totally failed in all.
Not only his accusations against Olli , he wanted to lie to the welfare office clerk , and his apology at the end - was just so so .
I know, he realized his mistake, but too late
I like, that Olli forgave him not so fully this time and we can see that this problem will remain between them for long time .
For me, the authors will use it as a possible reason for the breakup in the future.
and btw.
their acting was stunning - especially Jo was great.

[chrolliforever7]

I agree with everyone's comments. Christian was just terrible today. The stupid half-ass apology at the end yettttttttt again, being mean to Olli who obviously didnt intentially try to kill their baby!! Christian, get a fucking grip.

[MercuryMay]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zXq58b9dz0

[Deleted]

Well, finally the drama, which ends not at all today.
I'm pretty sure that Olli is not OK, and later it will have bad consequences.
But my Chrolli- heart is just now .

[sio127]

May...thanks you're a sweetheart........

[kripkegirl]

The first true crack in the couple of the century? I mean, it's always the same, isn't it? Christian criticizes when Olli commits some percieved offence. And later we get the same tired "I'm sorry" from Christian.

But I think this time is different. This time Christian played into Olli's fears with what I think will be far reaching consequences.

And of course Christian is completely oblivious to it all.

[joanna]

Danke, MM.x

Sorry for the lateness of these, folks...Blooming well loads to cap today....

My full set of caps, as enlargeable thumbnails, is now up in the thread opener....Click the below pic for the album they're all in....

[dalphine]

I'm really enjoying the new format on VL, and we all know how Christian is, he react before he thinks. I felt so sorry for Olli and I think Christian should do something to make it up to Olli, and I hope we get to see it. MMay thanks for all you do. Joanne thank you for caps.

[lotuscat]

This was an interesting episode. Liked the bit of angst and I liked that neither of them are perfect. Aww, but it was like some of the light died in Olli, which was really sad. I see him as the more mature and sensible one and so when he does something careless, it’s like he’s lost. There was nothing for him to grasp onto because Christian being so scared out of his mind, acted thoughtlessly and immaturely when he scolded Olli just when he needed his support so badly. I wish this could have been drawn out a bit with Olli on the couch for a few days and Christian doing a lot more apologizing but still, it was good at the end that they realized despite their mistakes, they are better united.

Thank you, Joanna and May, for all you do!

[LadyArmand]

I'm not really going to hold Christian's feet to the fire on this one. He's a new parent whose child gets sick and he's scared shitless. He was looking for someone to blame and Olli provied that for him and he lashed out. He said something completely stuipd and hurtful in a moment when he was scared to death that this child he has come to love could have died. Was it right? No. Was it fair? Hell no. Could it have happened to anyone including him? Absolutely. Was it understandable? As a mother of two teenagers, yes. I understand where that fear and anger that you can't do anything to help your child comes from so you need to blame someone/anyone, even the person closest to you. Even the person you know would rather die than hurt that child. Fear makes you do stuipd things under normal circunstances. But fear when it comes to your kids!!!!! That's something else altogether. That kind of fear can paralize you, or make you lash out in ways you never thought possible and do and say hurtful things even to someone you love. None of this excuses what Christain said or did in that moment. I'm just saying there is a reason for it and that I personally as a mother understand it.

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Jan 27, 2011 18:35:22 GMT -5 joanna said:

Danke, MM.x

this bitter-sweet look is killing me
if i could, then i would wrap him in a cotton wool and i would hug him and hug him ;D

[chrolliforever7]

^ agreed, lola. omfg he is so freaking gorgeous, its not human!

[megala89]

I completely agree with LadyArmand. You guys seem to be really quick to condemn Christian for his actions, but no one is perfect and, just like Olli made a mistake in giving Lily the cookie, Christian made a mistake by yelling at Olli instead of supporting him for that brief moment. All I can say about that is that it was a very human and, honestly, expected reaction. You can judge his actions all you want, but a situation like that seriously heightens your emotions and I can't really say that I wouldn't have a similar reaction in the heat of the moment like that. I don't think it was right. I just understand it. On the other hand, I will say that I'm getting really annoyed with the way the writers recently keep painting Christian as the bad guy and Olli as the victim in their relationship after 3 years of a fairly healthy relationship (not counting that whole Rob/Rebecca thing...let's just forget that happened). It's like they've taken what used to be subtle personality traits and blown them way out of proportion. I would be fine with this episode if they hadn't had Christian act like this in practically every episode they've been in for the past month. Can't they show some of Olli's flaws instead of always making it about Christian overreacting and Olli having to forgive him? I just hope that Christian learns from this and that they become a stronger team as a result.

[Trish]

I know what you mean. What Christian did was wrong, but he was scared and he lashed out at Ollie, since he thought he was to blame. I've done that before myself. When he was realized, he was wrong, he apologized.

I enjoyed the show, but I'm really getting tired of someone being there when they make up, so that we aren't able to feel that one has truly forgiven the other. Maybe Charlie can take Lily and the two of them have reconnect for a bit. Having a child is obviously putting a strain on them.

[tx3110]

I know everybodys upset with Christian right now but as a parent who has a child with this kind of allergy both Christian and Olli's reactions were completely honest and true, anger and fear are the first things you feel, Christians anger reaction is usually the first(it's usually mine too) and he kept a level head with the emt's which is not a easy thing to do, when it's your child thinking before you speak isn't always the easiest thing to do, for me anger seems calmer than panicking. I usually have to keep everybody else calm and that makes me come across as kinda a bitch but thats just the way i deal with it Christian seems to deal the same way Olli knows that about him it's probably one of the reasons he loves him too. I love that i can relate to their feelings in this episode it's a terrifying experience and I'm impressed that it was so real..Great job to both Jo and Thore..I do miss the hugs and kisses though..pouting.. need some Chrolli love please...

[kish]

You took the words right out of my mouth. It was (almost) normal how Christian reacted, when you are so scared you just need someone to yell at, because you can better manage with fury than with "angst". When our son had his accident some years ago my husband yelled at me first even though it was completely not my fault. But his character is similar to Christian, usually he has to be the tough one on the outside but he isn`t. Christian is so scared of another loss - he lost his mother, his father, Gregor is gone and Judith too. And he can`t cope with another one. He showed this too when Liliys father arrived.

I am really not taking sides cause I love both of them, but right now it pisses me off that always Olli is the one with the puppy eyes and the one who needs comfort and Christian is always the bad guy. But in earlier eps he showed clearly that he needs some comfort too, because of this fear, that he doesn`t know how to handle it when Lily has to go.

And I also think they certainly need some time alone (and we too) with a lot of romantik to find themselves again. Right now they are only acting as parents and not as a couple, and I believe a lot of us who are parents know that this situation cannot go on. So please writer of VL send us some nice Chrolli time to find this wonderful love again!

[mitsaso]

I really can't understand some of the fans' need to villify Christian and his attitude... in this episode, his freak-out was the most reasonable of all his freak-outs ever...!

I mean, he thought his daughter was dying! What did you expect him to say? "It's not your fault, Olli, we'll get another one...!"?

I liked the episode because it seemed to delve deeper into the story, but of course the extra minutes helped... we couldn't blame Christian for lashing out, or Olli for blaming himself, then we saw everybody slowly realizing that these things can happen at any time, with no warning or real fault of anyone, so they should just make sure to enjoy every little moment they spend with each other and Lily... also, I didn't see the whole half-hearted-making-up thing, the boys seem solid to me, although if the writers intended that so that they bring it out in a bigger storyline later I wouldn't mind it at all.

I don't think Olli was bitter at Christian for his lashing out, though... when Christian said "We're the best dads in the world" and Olli responded "You might be.", I didn't see irony, he actually meant it. It took Christian's coming around to make Olli believe he's not a bad father at all in the end.

[katiem26]

Jan 28, 2011 5:47:15 GMT -5 mitsaso said:

I really can't understand some of the fans' need to villify Christian and his attitude... in this episode, his freak-out was the most reasonable of all his freak-outs ever...!

I mean, he thought his daughter was dying! What did you expect him to say? "It's not your fault, Olli, we'll get another one...!"?

I liked the episode because it seemed to delve deeper into the story, but of course the extra minutes helped... we couldn't blame Christian for lashing out, or Olli for blaming himself, then we saw everybody slowly realizing that these things can happen at any time, with no warning or real fault of anyone, so they should just make sure to enjoy every little moment they spend with each other and Lily... also, I didn't see the whole half-hearted-making-up thing, the boys seem solid to me, although if the writers intended that so that they bring it out in a bigger storyline later I wouldn't mind it at all.

I don't think Olli was bitter at Christian for his lashing out, though... when Christian said "We're the best dads in the world" and Olli responded "You might be.", I didn't see irony, he actually meant it. It took Christian's coming around to make Olli believe he's not a bad father at all in the end.

You are so right. it is human nature when in a situation you cant control you lash out at the person closest to you. You dont think straight and definitely dont think about what you are saying or how you could be hurting them.
The acting was lovely and I would have loved to see how the writers would have written it if Christian had given Lily the biscuit.
Loved the supposed cold hearted lady from child services who made them realise that this could happen to anyone. It often takes a stranger to make you put things into perspective.

[valso]

Thanks Joanna and Mercury for your big contribution in help us following the Chrolli storyline

[Davian]

Poor Olli...
Jo was a.m.a.z.i.n.g in this episode.
Christian was a real arschloch .

When I first saw this


this immediatly came to my mind

Christian can really be an extremely sexy idiot and a jerk sometimes.

Thank you, Joanna and May!