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Post by Shiny on Jul 5, 2011 2:40:30 GMT -5
Together with my "partner in crime" from Russian FoQ fan club we have translated and made subtitles for Russian FoQ adaptation.
It would be interesting to know your opinion about it!!!
Personally I don't like it... But it's difficult to judge seeing only the promo.
I'll post information about the actors later on. There are some rumors about recasting but this is not yet confirmed.
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Post by jos87 on Jul 5, 2011 10:08:51 GMT -5
thanks shiny for the info. I have to admit that is strange for me too see other actors playing this story. I liked so much FoQ from the beginning to the end ( I love Fervid and i like a great part of the stories told from FoQ) that i have a great affection for the original story. So i want to remain with that original series.I know that this story will be very similar to the original but for me only Javier is Fer.only Adrian is David,only Ana Milan is Olimpia and i can continue with this with the other characters.I know that this can appear as pathetic but i don't like the adaptations in general; I prefer the original versions dubbed in the different languages. But with this i don't want to say that this Russian version is bad; i can't say this because i have seen only the promo and like you said we can't judge only with it.
Someone know where firens is? is a long time since I "saw" him here.
Have a good week people!
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Post by Shiny on Jul 5, 2011 11:18:56 GMT -5
thanks shiny for the info. I have to admit that is strange for me too see other actors playing this story. I liked so much FoQ from the beginning to the end ( I love Fervid and i like a great part of the stories told from FoQ) that i have a great affection for the original story. So i want to remain with that original series.I know that this story will be very similar to the original but for me only Javier is Fer.only Adrian is David,only Ana Milan is Olimpia and i can continue with this with the other characters.I know that this can appear as pathetic but i don't like the adaptations in general; I prefer the original versions dubbed in the different languages. But with this i don't want to say that this Russian version is bad; i can't say this because i have seen only the promo and like you said we can't judge only with it. Someone know where firens is? is a long time since I "saw" him here. Have a good week people! Hi jos87! I totally agree with you! That's why I also don't like this story because I can't imagine any other actors than our beloved ones! And our cast.. OMG.. I like only Aleksey (Isaac) and Irina (Irene). Everyone here in Russia (the fans) would have preferred to watch the original translated FoQ. But there will be a lot of people who were not aware at all about the original series and I can simply hope that they won't be disappointed by the way our adaptation will be done. Because if it's the case then they'll think bad also about the original serial. Will it be interesting if I post later on information about the actors and such stuff? At the moment I have only photos but I want to look also for some additional info about them. And one more interesting thing: if they decide to keep "Fer" (Fedor  ) storyline then it'll be first gay character on our television. We are not yet sure about it (opinions: 50/50) but the producers wrote that the story will be as close as possible to the original one. So who knows... p.s. I haven't seen firens for almost 2 weeks. Hope he's Ok and comes back to us  |
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Post by jos87 on Jul 5, 2011 14:53:10 GMT -5
shiny obviously you can post everything you want about the Russian versione of FoQ. Info about the actors and every other info you want.
I don't know if they will keep the Fer's storyline;for what i know, in Russia is not so easy to be gay (if i'm not wrong for example there were problems for the last gay pride;correct me if i'm saying something that is not true);for this i think at this moment that Fer will have a marginal role (i don't want to say that he will not be involved in many stories,but a real gay story for him seem to me very hard);and,even if he'll have real storylines, i don't think that the Russian Fervid will be like the Spanish one.In Spain our couple was very important (for the writers too) especially in the last 2 season where Fervid was the main couple of the show. So seem to me very hard that a real wonderful and pure gay love story like Fervid will be show in Russia. But maybe I have the wrong imagine of Russia regarding gay world (and with this i don't want to say that in Italy is so easy to be bisex/gay.Here there isn't a law to protect gay people from homophobia, for example).And obviously i hope that in Russia too you'll have this amazing couple.
Finally. i miss FoQ so much. I started to see again the series;at the moment i'm seeing the first chapters of season 4. I can say that at the moment FoQ is my favourite show (considering all the telefilm and tv-movie that i have seen,italian's and not).
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Post by Liana on Jul 5, 2011 15:42:18 GMT -5
I'm interested and I hope you sub some of the actual eps once they air... if you feel so inclined. |
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Post by Shiny on Jul 26, 2011 14:44:47 GMT -5
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Post by jos87 on Jul 26, 2011 15:43:32 GMT -5
thanks shiny. I admit that is very strange to see these faces in the roles that until the last June were played by other people.Esthetically i prefer the spanish actors,except for Julio. The Russian boy who play him is much better Maybe the girl who plays Cova and the guy who plays Isaac,too are better in the russian version (but for a definitive opinion about them i will have to see other pictures). But for the other i prefer the spanish ones(especially for Ruth and Yoli.And Fer too). But Cabano and Gorka will not be in the first Russian's season? For David I know that it's too soon (and i like Adrian so much that i find very hard to find the future russian's David better than him; ). |
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Post by Shiny on Jul 27, 2011 5:18:05 GMT -5
I'll post some more photos later on as I need to look for them. I also like Cova and Isaac. Cabano is just awful (the worst!). And it looks like there will be season 3 (at least how it looks at the moment based on the phrase posted below). News published today on CTC channel (by the way you can easily understand who are Ruth and Gorka there): www.ctc-tv.ru/rus/news/document146635.phtmltitle: "Telechannel CTC prepares a bomb this autumn" Then they talk about the series (everything we know already), but what is interesting is this line about what we'll see in these series: "Love between a student and a teacher, between classmates, gay love...." That means that now it's officially confirmed that they'll keep the gay storyline (we all had big doubts about that). |
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Post by jos87 on Jul 27, 2011 8:05:33 GMT -5
thanks fot he new info,
if they will have a gay story in the first 2 seasons,for me,will not be the Russian Fervid.But the first Fer's relationships before David.If they want to follow the original FoQ,like i read,the russian David will appear in the season 3 (that from your previous post,seems confirmed.Even i think that the channel who will air FoQ have to wait how many people will see this series). However is good that they will show a gay love,even if is not Fervid (for the moment).
I don't like this Gorka and Ruth. Now i wait to see your Cabano to express an opinion about him.But if you say that he is awful.....
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Post by Shiny on Jul 27, 2011 8:13:27 GMT -5
Ok. Here we go. Demotivator!  Some men you want to win and some to finish off. Joke: The difference in Russian is in two last letters |
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Post by Shiny on Jul 27, 2011 8:15:54 GMT -5
thanks fot he new info, if they will have a gay story in the first 2 seasons,for me,will not be the Russian Fervid.But the first Fer's relationships before David.If they want to follow the original FoQ,like i read,the russian David will appear in the season 3 (that from your previous post,seems confirmed.Even i think that the channel who will air FoQ have to wait how many people will see this series). However is good that they will show a gay love,even if is not Fervid (for the moment). I don't like this Gorka and Ruth. Now i wait to see your Cabano to express an opinion about him.But if you say that he is awful..... Gay love has never been yet shown on Russian TV as far as I know. There were some gay characters in some series but they all were too feminine. |
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Post by jos87 on Jul 27, 2011 9:08:35 GMT -5
thanks fot he new info, if they will have a gay story in the first 2 seasons,for me,will not be the Russian Fervid.But the first Fer's relationships before David.If they want to follow the original FoQ,like i read,the russian David will appear in the season 3 (that from your previous post,seems confirmed.Even i think that the channel who will air FoQ have to wait how many people will see this series). However is good that they will show a gay love,even if is not Fervid (for the moment). I don't like this Gorka and Ruth. Now i wait to see your Cabano to express an opinion about him.But if you say that he is awful..... Gay love has never been yet shown on Russian TV as far as I know. There were some gay characters in some series but they all were too feminine. I don't find wrong to represent even the gay people that are too feminine (because there are different kind of gay people);But i find stupid and unfair to represent gay people always in the same way,that in many society became a stereotype. Fortunately in the spanish FoQ wasn't in this way;We had two different guys:Fer,who is a little feminine and David that is the contrary.And together they were perfect.and i really hope that in Russia will happen the same. The Russian Cabano is very very ugly.OMG why they choose this guy?How old is he?40? |
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Post by carmelabcn on Jul 27, 2011 14:55:41 GMT -5
thanks fot he new info, if they will have a gay story in the first 2 seasons,for me,will not be the Russian Fervid.But the first Fer's relationships before David.If they want to follow the original FoQ,like i read,the russian David will appear in the season 3 (that from your previous post,seems confirmed.Even i think that the channel who will air FoQ have to wait how many people will see this series). However is good that they will show a gay love,even if is not Fervid (for the moment). I don't like this Gorka and Ruth. Now i wait to see your Cabano to express an opinion about him.But if you say that he is awful..... Gay love has never been yet shown on Russian TV as far as I know. There were some gay characters in some series but they all were too feminine. Shiny, I think Russia isn't a very gay friendly country at all, is it? So FoQ can do a good work. Series as FoQ or (in Catalonia) El Cor de la Ciutat, with non stereotiped gay people, have been important in Spain to change minds. And to help gay teens. |
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Post by jos87 on Jul 27, 2011 17:51:18 GMT -5
carmela,what you said is really true. Infact is thanks to these shows,where gay people are represented in the right way,without stereotypes and in everyday stories(with everyday problems and events),that people can change their mind.Here in Italy we never had a show as FoQ (and FoQ was aired here,in a channel of the DTT,until season2 and we don't know when they will decide to air the other seasons),but i'm sure that if the story of Fervid (or of the other gay characters that are part of soaps or tv-movies)would be transmitted here,a great part of people (not the entire population because in this world exist bigoted people) would understand how amazing can be a gay love,as the straight one. Foq in Spain was important too for many young people,that thanks to Fervid's story had the courage to come out with their friends and families.Javi and Adri very often said to have received e-mails from fans who thanked them because with Fervid they have had the strength to come out of the closet,living in a confortable way their sexuality
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Post by carmelabcn on Jul 27, 2011 18:10:36 GMT -5
carmela,what you said is really true. Infact is thanks to these shows,where gay people are represented in the right way,without stereotypes and in everyday stories(with everyday problems and events),that people can change their mind.Here in Italy we never had a show as FoQ (and FoQ was aired here,in a channel of the DTT,until season2 and we don't know when they will decide to air the other seasons),but i'm sure that if the story of Fervid (or of the other gay characters that are part of soaps or tv-movies)would be transmitted here,a great part of people (not the entire population because in this world exist bigoted people) would understand how amazing can be a gay love,as the straight one. Foq in Spain was important too for many young people,that thanks to Fervid's story had the courage to come out with their friends and families.Javi and Adri very often said to have received e-mails from fans who thanked them because with Fervid they have had the strength to come out of the closet,living in a confortable way their sexuality And for this reason, Adri was chosen to do the pregon of the Orgullo Alicante, for exemple. |
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Post by starky on Jul 27, 2011 18:11:54 GMT -5
At first glance, Russia is not gay friendly at all. All these "nationalists", crazy young people from ultra-right movements and active Christians (don`t get me started on these) and those, who grew up in the Soviet Union, are often quite radical and intolerant.
However, when you look at younger demographic you often see a different picture. Of course it varies among cities and schools, but still one cannot deny the fact, that young people are often more accepting.
It is a huge surprise for me that Russian TV channel decided to go all gay and keep Fer and (hopefuly) David. However, what bothers me is that there might be a public uproar about this thing. You know, all these people, who prefer to judge others` lives than to live their own.I forsee old grandmas writing letters to the President asking to cancel the "heretic show" (a Russian tradition - "have a problem - write to a President") and fat guys with golden crucifictions chanting how "western shows degrade traditional Russian morale". Sounds absurd, but such things happen here. What I am afraid of is that because of that FoQ might get cancelled .... and we`ll never see Russian David.
That would be a pity. Not just because I am eager to see Fervid, but because that would be a lost opportunity to educate Russians - young and old - that love is universal and that it has many faces. I am glad that "STS" understands that as they write on their web-site "FoQ shows us that it does not do to be afraid of one`s feeling as we live only once..... it teaches us to be proud of who we are"....
That`s the sentiment I second, but that`s a completely different story....
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Post by jos87 on Jul 27, 2011 19:57:04 GMT -5
carmela,FoQ and especially Fervid were very important for gay people,in Spain (but even for the other who saw the story in internet from other countries).I think that Antena 3 and the writers did a great job(for what is connected with the story of Fer and David;a real love between two young men in an high school,where very often is not so easy to be openly gay)and a great social service. What i say can be considered exaggerated but for me it is not;because television and the medias are some of the means that can help to change this society.Television has a great influence on the people;so ,a good message like Fervid gave,was important. And i can imagine that the people who organized the Orgullo in Alicante wanted Adri for the pregon and it's a pity that he could not do it. Starky welcome between us (is the first time i read your posts). And thanks for this info about Russia;is interesting to know other cultures.I hope that your version of FoQ will be not cancelled for the stupid bigoted ideas of many people,who can't accept a gay couple. The remote control does not exist in Russia? I think that if someone can't see something can change the channel and not complain about a show (especially if they write to the President;this is the first time i listen something like this). But i hope that the majority of the young people,in Russia and in the other countries, will be more open-minded;because the young people,like us, are the future.And the future can be much better if this generation can understand how beautiful is the love,regardless of the kind of love.Sorry for this boring post  And now i go to sleep that here it's 2.54 AM. Goodnight |
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Post by Shiny on Jul 28, 2011 0:51:04 GMT -5
Hi, jos! Don't worry, your posts are never boring!! And I agree with you that such stories are changing minds because that's what happened to me |
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Post by starky on Jul 29, 2011 12:26:44 GMT -5
Jos, thanks for a warm welcome :-) I totally share your sentiment. The future is bright, at least it`s up to us to make it so.
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Post by rtgtx on Jul 29, 2011 19:05:01 GMT -5
Russia has produced many great movies. I suppose their TV shows can be good as well.
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Post by jos87 on Jul 29, 2011 19:05:07 GMT -5
Jos, thanks for a warm welcome :-) you're welcome. And i am very happy that,even though we are few people,this forum of FoQ is still alive. And it's always interesting to exchange opinion with other people that live in different countries |
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Post by Shiny on Aug 2, 2011 12:20:03 GMT -5
I have just seen new promo on TV. That means it's fully official now.
"Sense or Prejudice
Sex or Love
Physics or Chemistry"
SOON
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Post by starky on Aug 2, 2011 12:38:08 GMT -5
I liked that. Though judging from the colour palette of this spot and other promo version, the
colours of the Russian version would be in gray zone, rather than warm red-orange Spanish ones.
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Post by Shiny on Aug 2, 2011 13:34:21 GMT -5
Yes, it's strange but I'm starting to like it..
Let's see what September brings to us. 1x1 will tell us everything.
I have seen rumors about 05.09 as possible premier date.
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Post by Shiny on Aug 2, 2011 13:36:34 GMT -5
Russia has produced many great movies. I suppose their TV shows can be good as well. Hi rtgtx! Glad to "see" you again! Yes, it's true about the movies and used to be true about the series. I have seen almost no new good series in the last 5 years  |
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) storyline then it'll be first gay character on our television. We are not yet sure about it (opinions: 50/50) but the producers wrote that the story will be as close as possible to the original one. So who knows...
And now i go to sleep that here it's 2.54 AM. Goodnight